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OfflineMAGnum
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    #3906039 - 03/12/05 09:27 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Is any of this stuff bad fro shroom growth" "Zinc oxide, Thiamine, Lime Niacin, mononitrate and folic acid?"


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Re: Hey [Re: MAGnum]
    #3906216 - 03/12/05 11:01 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Doesnt sound like it but if agar doesnt answer, I'm sure he can give you one if you PM him...dont know if anyone else could.


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Re: Hey [Re: MAGnum]
    #3906449 - 03/12/05 12:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I think anything can be good/bad at the right/wrong concentrations if you follow.  That being said though, I have absolutely no idea :tongue:


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Re: Hey [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #3906521 - 03/12/05 12:18 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ooops, I just saw you said bad...I thought you asked if they were good for growth...I doubt they are good for it is what I meant...

Might not be "bad", what are you trying to add?


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Hey [Re: MAGnum]
    #3906588 - 03/12/05 12:42 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MAGnum said:
Is any of this stuff bad fro shroom growth" "Zinc oxide, Thiamine, Lime Niacin, mononitrate and folic acid?"



Google searches say:
zinc oxide - white pigment, it's also an astringent (a substance that removes oil from the skin). Used to protect, soothe and heal the skin. Also provides good sun protection.
thiamine - vitamin B1
Lime Niacin - vitamin B3
mononitrate - this appears all over the web but only as a modifier of other words. Thiamin mononitrate is a common form of vitamin b1.
folic acid I already knew - it's iron supplement (for anemia - low blood iron)

A search in google for your whole list comes up with a bunch of nutrition bars. Were you wondering if you could grow from ground up energy bars?


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Re: Hey [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3906599 - 03/12/05 12:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Zinc and lime excluded, those are all B-vitamins. And since I doubt shrooms have such a high demand for these (they can probably synthesize them themselves), adding them probably wouldn't help.


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Re: Hey [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #3906622 - 03/12/05 12:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Actually, I believe that popcorn was found to work out better when adding I think B vitamins that it normally lacks compared to other grains.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Hey [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3906759 - 03/12/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Oh ok, interesting. Is there a particular thread you could point me to that says this? I'm a bit skeptical because a lot of B-vitamins are broken down during normal cooking (pressure cooking not-withstanding!)--thiamine and folic acid for example. Adding them to a substrate wouldn't accomplish anything if it was just PCed afterwards.

And Mages:
I think he either meant to say thiamine mononitrate or niacin mononitrate. And just to nitpick: folic acid is not iron supplement. A folic acid deficiency causes a specific type of anemia (megaloblastic anemia) which is unrelated to anemia caused from lack of iron.

Some references:
http://www.chclibrary.org/micromed/00039670.html
http://www.rxmed.com/b.main/b1.illness/b1.1.illnesses/anemia,_folic_acid_deficiency.html


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Re: Hey [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #3907051 - 03/12/05 02:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Let me try a search..

Here it is:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post3655175

You can see theres nothing conclusive...but still :smile:


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Hey [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3913480 - 03/13/05 10:40 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Word, that's cool. Thanks guys.


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Re: Hey [Re: Mages]
    #3914363 - 03/14/05 02:06 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Mages said:
folic acid I already knew - it's iron supplement (for anemia - low blood iron)




Folic acid is a B vitamin. It is used in our bodies to make new cells. If a woman has enough folic acid in her body before she is pregnant, it can help prevent major birth defects of her baby?s brain and spine. These birth defects are called neural tube defects or NTDs. Women need to take folic acid every day starting before they are pregnant to help prevent NTDs.
the most common way people get iron is iron sulfate and iron oxide

i wounder if this guy has some kinda of fortified food like rice or some thing and is wondering if the added b vitamins are OK lol


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Re: Hey [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #3914648 - 03/14/05 03:10 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Aeolus1369 said:


... folic acid is not iron supplement. A folic acid deficiency causes a specific type of anemia (megaloblastic anemia) which is unrelated to anemia caused from lack of iron.




I looked it up and found that I was quite, quite wrong. Thanks for educating me on that. I guess my doctor gave me a very simplistic view of anemia when I was a kid and had to take that stuff. (And thanks to you, too, DemBones.)


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Re: Hey [Re: Mages]
    #3916359 - 03/14/05 02:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Zinc Oxide is also anticeptic. Can be used on burns and such.


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