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Offlinebrewwhaha1
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casings peat vs. verm.?
    #3904952 - 03/11/05 09:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I'm currently using peat for caseing with a 25% ratio of verm. I've had good results with it. I understand the principle of a casing layer and realize its job it to provide moisture and texture. This being the case why not just use vermiculite. It holds 5 grams of water per gram of verm compared to peat at 2.5 grams of water to single gram of peat? Is it the cost of verm.? or is it a combination of things? Please explain. Thanks.


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Re: casings peat vs. verm.? [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3904981 - 03/11/05 09:27 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I find that using only verm makes for a very loose caselayer. When your're going to pick the mushrooms you get large holes in the layer which is bad imho.


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Re: casings peat vs. verm.? [Re: phobey]
    #3904988 - 03/11/05 09:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

that is true, peat will get inbetween where the verm doesn't, and also it is hard to determine the moisture level with just verm. There isn't a color change unlike with peat or coir.


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Re: casings peat vs. verm.? [Re: phobey]
    #3904998 - 03/11/05 09:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Straight verm will work but you will get better results if you use a buffer. Hydrated lime and calcium carbonate are popular choices, but there are a few different things u can use.

Look through these and decide what works best for you
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/8

Oh and some people don't like using straight verm cuz its kinda hard to tell how moist it is just by looking at it


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Re: casings peat vs. verm.? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3905000 - 03/11/05 09:31 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

did you even read his question or just his topic?


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Re: casings peat vs. verm.? [Re: derx]
    #3905004 - 03/11/05 09:32 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

derx said:
did you even read his question or just his topic?




who are you asking?


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Re: casings peat vs. verm.? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #3905542 - 03/12/05 12:44 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

He wasn't asking about a buffer. He was asking why peat is even necessary for helping with moisture, since vermiculite does fine moisturewise. This is a good question, and it seems it's been answered.


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