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OfflineSteel27Odin
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A Casing Scoop
    #3902051 - 03/11/05 12:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

My top layer of casing material is being colonized by fluffy mycelium :thumbup:, However when I  pier ed inside my PMP, I noticed that one section, the size of a quarter, had growth that did not resemble mycelium..looked kind of gray...so I sterilized a spoon and scooped it out....Was this OK..? Is there anything else I should do?


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: Steel27Odin]
    #3902133 - 03/11/05 12:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

if it was mycellium it will grow back. just sit back and let 'em grow. i did the same thing accept i though i had green mold cuz i picked a mushie and it turned soo strongly blue/green i was kinda worried so i did the exact same deal and the mycellium grew back in a white.


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: thenewguy05]
    #3902212 - 03/11/05 01:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If there are more things in your chamber, isolate it. Contams are often (almost always) much deeper then you expect and can be difficult to get rid of. Its a guessing game I never fuck with because I dont like to endanger my whole grow. If you dont have much else to worry about endangering though...


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3902242 - 03/11/05 01:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Is there ever a chance a small contamination could start late in incubation, but then be overtaken my myc? making things OK?


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: RevMax]
    #3902306 - 03/11/05 01:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Not really. I had a Z with a single grain kernal that turned green after the whole jar was colonized (actually I had about 12 do this, but this had the smallest spot..all were very small though). I kept all the jars waiting to toss them, before I did I checked them and couldnt find green in one..thinking maybe I saw a shaddow before since the jar was all white, I broke it up into 18 quarts, g2g transfers...everyone of them turned green. It wasnt my g2g transfering either because 2 other strains, 12 jars each, done the same way without a single contam.

Wish I had thrown some peroxide in first to kill them damn spores. They were looking beautiful for like 6 days too, again, almost done and contamed... Bastard green...


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: Steel27Odin]
    #3902745 - 03/11/05 02:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

hey buddy, i hate to break it to you but if your casing layer is being colonized by fluffy mycellium then you might have overlay. you dont want your casing layer to be colonized (just colonized so its barely showing mycellium), and you dont really want the mycellium to by fluffy, you want rhyzomorphic growth (spelling error). your humidity might be too high if its really cottony/fluffy and colonizing the whole casing layer.

here... the one on the left is NOT what you want it to look like, the one on the right is more what you would want.


oh, and the funny colored area is probably a contam, listen to what others have said^ to take care of that


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: Edge]
    #3903299 - 03/11/05 04:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I don't mean to steal your thread or anything, but how can you be sure to prevent overlay from happening? As you can see,( http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3885511/an/0/page/0 ) I just patched and placed my casing into the fruiting chamber, and I wanna be sure that I don't get overlay and everything goes right. Thanks for any help. :wink:


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #3904153 - 03/11/05 07:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Some one?


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #3904178 - 03/11/05 07:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You'll have to use a casing that isn't nutritious. Something like vermiculite and peat moss. A nutritious casing gets overlaid, like coir.


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: Hotnuts]
    #3904491 - 03/11/05 08:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

So your telling me that coir is a bad casing layer? Why does everybody use it then?


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- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #3904517 - 03/11/05 08:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

pinkfloydms said:
So your telling me that coir is a bad casing layer? Why does everybody use it then?




Coir really is an inadequate casing layer. Not sure why it's so popular either, I guess just not enough people have had bad results with it to advertise and sway people away from it.

On the other hand, coir makes an awesome addition to bulk substrate.


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: Holydiver]
    #3904626 - 03/11/05 09:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for clearing that up guys.


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #3905415 - 03/12/05 01:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Coir works as a fine casing layer for me.

Peat moss contains small amounts of nutrients as well, just like coir. Its so miniscule it doesnt matter though.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: A Casing Scoop [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3905464 - 03/12/05 01:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Coir works as a fine casing layer for me.




Ditto.


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