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D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer!
    #3898937 - 03/10/05 07:03 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Im considering doing some outdoor growing because it seems easier and more natural. Theres som lovely Teks I would like to try. I have a few questions. Is outdoor cultivation still legally "cultivation"? I'm assuming it is only if it is blatantly obvious.

And question number 2 is... I have lots of deer in my area. The bastards seem to eat everything, can't hardly plant any flower or veg without them eating it. Does anyone know if deer eat mushies? I've read of reindeer chowing on amanita.


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Benwa]
    #3898964 - 03/10/05 07:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hardly, but the mushrooms would love their poo! :laugh:


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Benwa]
    #3898977 - 03/10/05 07:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

It's only illegal outdoors if you get caught. Who's going to go looking for a cubensis patch? Very, very few people know what they are looking at anyways. Zero risk factor there.

Not sure on the deer, doubt they would be a problem.


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Benwa]
    #3899010 - 03/10/05 07:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Cultivation, when intentional, is still cultivation regardless of form. Then again, like you said, there's really no reason for anyone to think anything of it, unless there's a perfectly shaped mound in your backyard that you water by hand every couple days. Considering the way mycelium branches out in soil, it's unlikely that even a perfect patch will stay that way for long, although I suppose, if they really wanted to, the police could make a case saying that the shrooms in your backyard don't grow in the area naturally (if that's in fact the case).

I wouldn't worry about it much, unless you've got snooping neighbors. As for the deer- I think that they do eat mushroomsl, but I could be wrong. If you wanted to be safe, put down some predator urine (yes, you can buy the stuff- look for BobEx, bobcat urine) around your patch and they'll stay away.


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Holydiver]
    #3899044 - 03/10/05 07:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the replies. I figured outdoor would seem a safer (legally) and easier choice. I'll try to find some species that is happy in my area (the midwest). I doubt anyone would know what they are. Kind of like growing a few opium poppies in your yard. You could have a barbeque and invite the entire police force and not a single one will know what the hell they were.

The deer issue has got me concerned. Of course them eating my crop is an issue. But I live in a fairly populated area and we have a dangerous amount of deer (They get hit by drivers pretty regularly). I have no idea what a deer tripping its balls off would do or even if the psilocybe is effective on them. They're awful tame, Id hate for one to go berserk.

Also, I'm a pretty environmentally conscious guy. So I was wondering if introducing a foreign species of mushroom would have any ecological effect. I don't think it will. I guess if your ecosystem is going to be over run, might as well be a crop like shroomies.


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Benwa]
    #3899151 - 03/10/05 07:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Benwa said:
Also, I'm a pretty environmentally conscious guy. So I was wondering if introducing a foreign species of mushroom would have any ecological effect. I don't think it will. I guess if your ecosystem is going to be over run, might as well be a crop like shroomies.




of the cubensis varieties, no, the effects would be beneficial, with wood loving
mushrooms the effects would probably be the same as they arent going to 'infect'
trees and kill them like some fungi


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3899277 - 03/10/05 08:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

deer eat anything that they can get their mouth to, it doesn't matter what it is. I would look into some kind of chicken-wire or a repellent. The only repellent that I have seen work good is the homemade kind made out of some kind of peppers that you spray.


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: metasin]
    #3899529 - 03/10/05 08:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

urinating around the patch helps repel deer as well, clothes that you've worn that day, and soap will work as well.


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3899570 - 03/10/05 09:03 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The urinating around a patch myth has been busted.. search OG


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: metasin]
    #3899610 - 03/10/05 09:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

really, I did it around one and never had a problem, it could have been some other factor though... deer are heavily reliant on scent and I know that most perfumed soaps do deter them.


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3899620 - 03/10/05 09:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I used to live next to a state park where the deer were abundant. I can assure you that an alcoholic pissing on the bushes did not stop the deer from eating the bushes.

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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: metasin]
    #3899634 - 03/10/05 09:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

hahaha... well, I'm in an area thats infested with them myself, of course I do have a couple of dogs that may be a contributing factor, the dobie just wants to play with them... last year my garden wasnt even touched... some critters are easily baited away from the patch while other need a repellant


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3899647 - 03/10/05 09:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

never tried soap tho
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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: metasin]
    #3900748 - 03/11/05 01:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Deer will definitely eat mushrooms. So will other crits. Shrooms are packed with all sorts of good nutrients they'd just love to have. Don't know if they'll eat cubies, though. I mean if TASTE were the only deciding factor, I wouldn't eat them again, myself. Ever.


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Re: D'oh! A Deer. A Female Deer! [Re: Mages]
    #3900925 - 03/11/05 02:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you can buy blood meal it is an organic fertlizer made of cow blood for iron and nitrogen DONT put it in the patch but pour a line of it around it and deer and rabbits will stay away, also cubensis are native to the midwest.


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