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Offlineiceberg
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not sure if this is unhealthy to eat
    #3894845 - 03/09/05 10:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

im guessing not though, a couple weeks ago i fan dried some shroomies (seemed cracker dry) and put them in a plastic bag inside a mason jar. today i pulled it out and they seemed soft and had some grayish fuzzy stuff growing on them. Wondering if i can still eat these although i know probably not, and how long strictly fan dried shrooms can last for.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: iceberg]
    #3894953 - 03/09/05 10:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I suggest you dispose of those mushrooms.

If there is any moisture in mushrooms that are stored in airtight containers, that is what happens. Get your mushrooms cracker dry next time, or store them in a loosely folded paper bag in the fridge.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: dog]
    #3894970 - 03/09/05 10:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

They didn't get all the way dry. I'd toss them, but if you're really wanting a trip, boil them first into tea. That should kill any bacteria or molds.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #3895015 - 03/09/05 10:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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They didn't get all the way dry. I'd toss them, but if you're really wanting a trip, boil them first into tea. That should kill any bacteria or molds.




if you boil them first you can also guarantee that you are destroying any hallucinogenic properties they have.

post a pic if you can, but if shit is GROWING on them, i would toss it.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: iceberg]
    #3895051 - 03/09/05 10:53 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

white fuzz is bad mold. toss em.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: CPT_InSaNo]
    #3895056 - 03/09/05 10:54 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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if you boil them first you can also guarantee that you are destroying any hallucinogenic properties they have.





Obviously you've never boiled ground shrooms and drank the mix.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: TODAY]
    #3895062 - 03/09/05 10:55 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)



The bottom pic is of shrooms that got bagged too early in a drunken mindstate. Rot,mold,fuzz,all that nasty shit.I wouldnt eat em'.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: pizzle3k]
    #3895080 - 03/09/05 10:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i have the same lotion :laugh:.  yeah, better safer just drying them out more than you think you should.  also, crack a few of the thicker stems to make sure they snap and break cleanly, this should tell you if the whole crop is dry. 

also, after bottling them up i check them after a few hours and then after a day to make sure they aren't starting to smell or get squishy.  you get a distinct odor when they've been in a jar and aren't fully dry.  they'll get soft and smelly...if this happens then you have to dry some more.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Holydiver]
    #3895088 - 03/09/05 11:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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if you boil them first you can also guarantee that you are destroying any hallucinogenic properties they have.





Obviously you've never boiled ground shrooms and drank the mix.




i was under the impression that bringing shrooms to boil destroyed the psilocin? 212 degrees is hot, and most people reccomend below 100 for drying alone. im confused now? you can boil shrooms, and still trip? no diminished effects?


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Holydiver]
    #3895096 - 03/09/05 11:02 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Agreed! Tea works like a charm!


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Hotnuts]
    #3895118 - 03/09/05 11:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah CPT_InSaNo, if there is any potency lost through boiling, it isn't noticeable. Try it sometime, a couple dried grams boiled then steeped with your tea of choice will send you to the moon.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Holydiver]
    #3895128 - 03/09/05 11:07 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I think DRYING them at too high of temps still greatly reduced the magic in it tho. So don't go dryin em in the oven or nothin.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Holydiver]
    #3895136 - 03/09/05 11:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah CPT_InSaNo, if there is any potency lost through boiling, it isn't noticeable. Try it sometime, a couple dried grams boiled then steeped with your tea of choice will send you to the moon.




so then, would drying using heat destroy shrooms? provided you didnt exceed 200 degrees farhenheit?


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: CPT_InSaNo]
    #3895148 - 03/09/05 11:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yes. It would ruin them. Weird huh. That's just how the magic works. Room temp is perfect for drying shrooms.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: CPT_InSaNo]
    #3895150 - 03/09/05 11:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I've never dried with high heat so I can't speak from experience, but several people around here have reported doing so with no loss there either. Psilocybin appears to be pretty resilient.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Holydiver]
    #3895158 - 03/09/05 11:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

thats interesting, sorry about my above misinformation, it just seemed like the overall consensus was heat destroyed psilocybin/psilocin. ahhhh so much to learn in this hobby!!!


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Holydiver]
    #3895160 - 03/09/05 11:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

No shit! Is that an old wives tale too?


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: CPT_InSaNo]
    #3895167 - 03/09/05 11:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

No problem it happens; I've done it and probably still do on occasion. I think we all live by one rumor or another in cultivation until the time comes when we find out for ourselves that in fact it's not true! Alot of that stuff floating around, you just gotta sort out what's what on your own in some cases. As you said, so much to learn.


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Hotnuts]
    #3895200 - 03/09/05 11:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe someone who has access to the chemicals could do a test. Slice some stems down the middle, test 1 half, heat dry the other, and then test it. I've always believe heat destroyed the psilocybin (mostly from reading Aurora, Stamets, and Chilton) but now that I think about it, I don't remember any test results.

Still, I wouldn't eat moldy bread, even after toasting it, unless I was SUPER starving, so I think I'd give the moldy shrooms a pass too. Even if it didn't hurt you, I wouldn't want to go into a trip with that thought anywhere even close to my brain. I've HAD a bad trip or two, thank you. (Tip: gulping down a few shrooms and sticking a horror movie in the VCR is not good planning.)


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Re: not sure if this is unhealthy to eat [Re: Mages]
    #3895236 - 03/09/05 11:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"So much to learn"

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