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Re: G.O.D. [Re: ultrafeel]
    #5726697 - 06/08/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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ultrafeel said:
But let us try this one:

Imagine there is indeed god, whatever it is (some 'personal perfect entity', some 'energy', a 'spirit', whatever)

Imagine after death, you finally see him/her/it.

You shout: "Wow, finally I see you, from 'face to face'!"


really think about this.
Maybe you 'see' him/her/it, or you 'feel'the presence of some enormous love, or you confront infinity/eternety which you identify as god, or however the 'contact' will look like.

So, there is god, and there is you.

:confused: But then: WHO ARE YOU THEN?!

There is god in its infinite glory, BUT WHO IS WATCHING THIS GOD ?!?!



Folks, if you really dig deep into this, enlightenment is very close...!!

:thumbup: :laugh:  :thumbup:




I can see what you mean, but the god you speak of is a little different from the Jewish god, in fact it is above him.
You can look at Jehowah/Father/Alah, but you can't look at this philosophical god you are talking about, because you are a part of him.
On the other hand the Jehowah/Father/Alah is a separate being from you, and you are his creation. He is the master of all you can touch and see and of the other world, but he is not the essence of the universe, simply the master, like a boss in a company. The boss is not the company, it is simply the supreme part of it.

There is a difference between these two gods


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Re: G.O.D. [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5727005 - 06/08/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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There is a difference between these two gods




There might be a difference between various gods, but there is only one consciousness watching all the gods...!

If we 'find' this 'one consciousness', what will happen?  :confused:


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Re: G.O.D. [Re: ultrafeel]
    #5727431 - 06/08/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

as soon as a persons memory is erased, they have to start over, understanding to harness fire or find food.

the tribe encounters sickness or disease or famine, it is suffering, it is evil.
or if there is abundance of health, then it is joy and good.

most of life in the universe is very healthy and well put together.
humans are weird for many reasons, that's not the issue here.

so what happens is the tribe ascribes names for the powers that be-
like SunLight, or Fire, or Fertility, or Destruction, or whatever.
And these descriptive names become gods.
or godforms within the godhead.

then eventually the tribe comes to the astonishing realization that the whole time there was only One God behind everything, and we were only seeing different masks of the same being.

once this realization occurs, next comes the conculsion that eventually at the end of things, we are pretty much all the same person.
and you are responsible for co-creating all the death and life upon the face of the earth somehow mysteriously between your own personal interaction with God, who is you, who is me, who is everyone involved with us.

when you find this one consciousness, i'll tell you what will happen.
you will have a choice, you can die and enter heaven.
or, you can come, as a teacher or prophet
or, you can join with the darkness, using the information you've drawn about things to manipulate things according to your mental logic rather than your heart.
or you can agree to totally forget about it, which is the way most of us want it.

when you attain to union with God
you're going to realize that everyone who has similar DNA structures, are all apart of a greater being.
as if to say, we are all essentially more than one person.
more specifically you might say, there are 12 types.
or 36 types.
and as we move through a singularity effect, we are squished into One Being. (or 36 primaries, into twelve, into a single thirteenth.)

think of a black hole, before it destroys everything, at first what it's gonna do is reduce everything to its primary components
the periodic table of elements.
now imagine every single atom entering the singlarity just becoming ONE Master Atom, so there is just one Master Hydrogen, and One Master Nitrogen, and One Master Gold atom or whatever.

The same thing happens with all the cats, or dogs, or people.

So when you become One with All Consciousness
It's like you have x-ray vision suddenly, and you can see through walls or anything North South East and West
It will seem as if you are rising
And this landscape comes into focus
Then you will notice ancestors out there- in the beyond as if a mile away, but you can see them, as a tiny point of light usually, in your minds eye. tapped into the earths consciousness grids then you will volley messages and signals back and forth with them across the entire globe. (using gesture & glance)
and you will remember these ancestors only while you are in this Union with the One (technically we are still at Union with Many but...)
you will suddenly remember many things about your family spirit, your tribe, yourself which is infact many many people at once.
and then you will realize that you are very close with God, and the entire world is co-created and governed and managed by your own personal relationship with God. The things you are doing are effecting things. and, those who understand Oneness, they Knowing Uphold Creation, while people who "know not what they do" they are Unknowingly Upholding Creation.

Many people chose to forget and not remember for the simple reason that the responsibility of knowing is a duty that isn't worth the reward of knowing, to most people.

when you become one with all, lessons come each time
it is like witnessing the end of all things
because it is the timeless space that is the beginning and ending
you will feel sadness, but fear cannot exist where you are, only love
and there will be other beings about you, family and friends, and they are sad too.
but there will be great joy too that compliments the sorrow,
knowing that WE are ALL in the SAME boat together in this.
And what we did together was we created a vast universe of Life and Love, every thought you ever had- you created that.
and whenever you created things together with other people, you're essentially shooting your energy across the entire planet then.
this is why some hermit prophets, or powerful artist never say a word about what they know, (except maybe in code for only the family to hear) there is great power in secrecy sometimes.

you cannot reach One Consciousness without Honesty.
and when you become Honest, you will have access to it freely.
In fact that is the only way. (Honesty & Love)

Honesty isn't always pretty, it's a tender area, and often sore.
It can be awful or comical.
hONEsty is AtONEment to be true purely honest on all levels is Sinlessness which can only be touched by a Christed Being.
In the muddle of the Lie-Cycle, sinners can teach us alot about ourselves for we are all together on this- which is why people are so scared to look at IT.
Look at a guy like Charles Manson, or G.G. Allin.
Sometimes people have see them as spiritual or Godlike.
It is because they were being Honest on certain high levels , yes.
But very dishonest on other levels.

Becoming Honest with yourself and the world is the same as uncovering Mystery.
You can think of a human mind as a rubics cube, and it's thoughts are shapes, chaotic shapes that can come into a perfect order sometimes, with a little love
In the End, for Human Beings, if you are working with Oneness & the Light, eventually it all comes down to One Thing-
Womanhood is Mystery.
She is the embodiment of mystery because the womb itself is a natural organic Zero Point Machine.
Zero Point is the place where all reality and existence comes into place. namely Life itself, and specifically yours and mine.

when you finally realize that it all comes down to this trinity of Male and Female and Child(which is neither and both, and defines 3=4).
and thusly, if you begin to make a study of human relationships and child development, pregnancy, the processes of human life, mostly the geometries of the human body-
if you really take a close look at the human body, you will find evidence of proof of god within there, for sure.
God hid the secrets of becoming God in a place he knew that nobody would ever look for it.
Within our own hearts.
As we approach the end of human history again, we are becoming wise to the clever ways he tests us.


Edited by Telepylus (06/08/06 04:28 PM)

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Re: G.O.D. [Re: Telepylus]
    #5727453 - 06/08/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What a wonderful post. I mean WOW!

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Re: god proof [Re: MAGnum]
    #5727589 - 06/08/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Magnum said:
When you love, you are bennefitting and adding to the kingdom of God!




But why does it have to benefit and add to the [kingdom of God!]? Why can't it just be love?


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Re: god proof [Re: demiu5]
    #5727675 - 06/08/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

God has everything to do with everything. God is the Source of Love.


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Re: god proof [Re: Basilides]
    #5727705 - 06/08/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

not to someone who doesn't believe


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Re: god proof [Re: demiu5]
    #5727707 - 06/08/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That's the way she goes


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Re: god proof [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5727741 - 06/08/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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OldWoodSpecter said:
Some people need god, some don't




No one needs an abstract concept as such, no.

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but that question excludes the possibility that god is something real.




No it doesn't. It realizes that referencing a God is an abstract concept, based on an aspect of reality or not (which, the entire point was, of course, that one cannot know if it is an aspect of reality or not, and that we must "wager" on it :lol:).

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Re: god proof [Re: Basilides]
    #5727750 - 06/08/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Basilides said:
Exactly what is your interpretation of "God" - (Logos, whether called Allah, Brahman, Jehovah, etc) ?




My interpretation is not the issue. :smirk:

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do you reject the possibility of anything outside what is registered by human sense data?




No possibillity has been rejected. Please demonstrate where such possibillity has been rejected, clearly reproducing such rejection in a manner that will effectively show where and how such rejection occured.

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What about the contention of the preceding Ground of Being by Gnostics, the Clear Light of Buddhists, the "Beloved Spectacle" of Sufis?




What about it?

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Re: god proof [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #5727755 - 06/08/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Or what if you're wasting your only life and short time in existence believing in something that's as true as the easter bunny? All I see everywhere is scare tactics to believe in god and surrender your free will.

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Re: god proof [Re: Basilides]
    #5727763 - 06/08/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Basilides said:
God has everything to do with everything. God is the Source of Love.




God is an idea, a word and a vocal frequency which exists as nothing more than that. The "Source Of Love" is the "Source Of Love". Reality is reality.

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Re: god proof [Re: stantonfreedom]
    #5727769 - 06/08/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Or what if you're wasting your only life and short time in existence believing in something that's as true as the easter bunny? All I see everywhere is scare tactics to believe in god and surrender your free will.




Ah yeah, good ole' God the authority figure. The church is big on that interpretation IME.


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Re: god proof [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5727770 - 06/08/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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My interpretation is not the issue.




I'm just curious - just trying to understand where you're coming from  :smirk:

Quote:

No possibillity has been rejected. Please demonstrate where such possibillity has been rejected, clearly reproducing such rejection in a manner that will effectively show where and how such rejection occured.




I was just asking a question.

Quote:

What about it?




Well, is there anything wrong with calling the Ground of Being, the Clear Light *gasp* "God"?


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Re: god proof [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5727773 - 06/08/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
Quote:

Basilides said:
God has everything to do with everything. God is the Source of Love.




God is an idea, a word and a vocal frequency which exists as nothing more than that. The "Source Of Love" is the "Source Of Love". Reality is reality.

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God is God, an idea is an idea.


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Re: god proof [Re: stantonfreedom]
    #5727831 - 06/08/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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stantonfreedom said:
Or what if you're wasting your only life and short time in existence believing in something that's as true as the easter bunny? All I see everywhere is scare tactics to believe in god and surrender your free will.




I know what a bunch of lunatics,

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Re: god proof [Re: Basilides]
    #5727864 - 06/08/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Basilides said:
God is God, an idea is an idea.




God is an idea, reality is self-evident.

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Re: god proof [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5727873 - 06/08/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
Quote:

Basilides said:
God is God, an idea is an idea.




God is an idea, reality is self-evident.

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God is self-evident :smirk:


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Re: god proof [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5727880 - 06/08/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Why spend so much energy arguing whether to call it Energy, Reality, Self, Big Mind, Brahman, Dog or God?

:grin:

It seems like a neverending story to me. :wink:

(eta; She is a girl and she is 5.)

Edited by dr_mandelbrot (06/08/06 06:38 PM)

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Re: god proof [Re: dorkus]
    #5727893 - 06/08/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The Holy One and the Great Love are my favorite nicknames for "God"


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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