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Offlineunearth
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how to check if shrooms are posionous
    #3893976 - 03/09/05 07:52 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Don't post for partners, use pm's. And please get a decent post count first so you don't look like a cop.


Next time, give the shrooms a little pinch and wait about 4 hours or overnite and see if they bruise. Proper ID's can be tricky. I'm not saying the girl might be wrong though...I'm just saying...

i read this while i was searching posionous shrooms,is this how you check if there poisonous,and if so where do you pinch it and how hard


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: unearth]
    #3893994 - 03/09/05 07:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

>I'm not saying the girl might be wrong though.

Frankly, she is.

This test has no value whatsoever.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: Anno]
    #3894402 - 03/09/05 08:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

unearth is an awesome band, but i dont understand your post at all.

pinch the stems, some active mushrooms will bruise a noticable blue color. dont eat anything unless you have identified it, for 100% sure.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: Quankus]
    #3894468 - 03/09/05 09:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

so is it posionous if it turns blue,im just asking if you pinch it and it turns blue is it posionous


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: unearth]
    #3894476 - 03/09/05 09:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It may or may not be.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3894488 - 03/09/05 09:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

then what does pinching it do,whats that for


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: unearth]
    #3894543 - 03/09/05 09:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I THINK, that if it doesn't turn blue, you can be sure it doesn't have psilocybin in it. I think all mushrooms that have psilocybin in them turn blue.

But not all mushrooms that turn blue have psilocybin in them.

Although I could be wrong.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3894589 - 03/09/05 09:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I believe it is the psilocin that oxidizes (causing blueing). Psilocybin is more "stable" and is metabolized into psilocin in your liver.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: unearth]
    #3895266 - 03/09/05 11:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hey man, check out the Mushroom Hunting section of this site, it has loads of good info and answers many questions you may have.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: unearth]
    #3895305 - 03/09/05 11:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That's bullshit, frankly. While many species of active mushrooms do blue, among them cyanescens and cubensis, some do not, such as Panaeolus subbalteatus. The only way to check if shrooms are poisonous is to gain experience in identifying them by checking their size, cap color, spore print, stems, and other distinguishing factors that allow mushroom hunters to identify mushrooms. Some psilocybin mushrooms may bruise blue if they are pinched, but some poisonous or just bunk ones may also, so you cannot base it solely on whether a mushroom blues or not.

Go to the Mushroom Hunting forum for more information, and do some research if you truely want to hunt actives.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: Ravus]
    #3895435 - 03/10/05 12:12 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So there are in fact some psilocybin mushrooms that do not bruise blue?

I didn't know that, but always wondered about it.

Thanks for clearing that up. :thumbup:


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3895565 - 03/10/05 12:39 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, not all psilocybes blue. Only certain species.

Common misconception.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #3895599 - 03/10/05 12:44 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Do you know why some wouldn't?

If blue bruising in some species is because of oxidation of the psilocybin, then how could some not bruise blue? :confused:


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3896253 - 03/10/05 02:51 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

mushy joh just put a web page on it only a while ago do a search!


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: liveby]
    #3897012 - 03/10/05 11:43 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

How do you expect me to find it if the member 'mushy joh' doesn't exist?

I've just searched for psilocybin bruising (and variations on it too)in the topic titles and didn't find shit.

There are a million threads about psilocybin bruising. Is it even in the main thread title? Do you expect me to search through each post about it Psilocybin bruising?

Wrong username + no information about the thread = impossible to search for.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3904990 - 03/11/05 11:28 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

From what I understand about it, the reason some mushrooms such as panaeolus often only bruise slightly on the mycelium hanging under the mushroom and maybe the stem, or sometimes not at all, is that the pigmentation of the mushroom hides the blueing. Not to mention subbalteatus isn't a very potent mushroom to begin with.

Often, in mushrooms who do not noticeably blue, the mycelium may bruise slightly blue, because it is white and not covered by pigmentation, and therefore more noticeable.

He probably meant Mushroom John, just a simple misspelling, as I think this has been reviewed before. There is some information on blueing in mushrooms around:
http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?A=ShowDoc1&ID=2680
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post3133716

Also, some pigmentation of active mushrooms can make the mushroom appear to bruise another color, such as I believe Big Laughing Gyms actually appear to bruise green.

There has also been debate over whether it actually is the oxidation over psilocin that turns the mushroom blue, as opposed to an actual enzyme in the mushroom, because if it was simply psilocin oxidizing, wouldn't pure synthesized psilocin turn nice and blue also? Yet I've never heard of this happening, only in active mushrooms and not the chemicals themselves, though admittedly there needs to be more research done. Interesting subject nonetheless.


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Re: how to check if shrooms are posionous [Re: Ravus]
    #3914241 - 03/14/05 01:25 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You will NEVER make a positive id without taking a spore print.

Prove me wrong.


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