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OfflineIGnosticAbhorI
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We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot
    #3888256 - 03/08/05 04:23 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

PmP's can be heated w/ fish tank heaters
TiT's are the same...

But how could I drop the temp to 50-60F if my house is always at 70F?

Having cubes fruit with Nameko's is going to be difficult, i might do them in seperate terriums since there's such a big temp. difference in which each needs...damn

>Be aware that nameko probably also requires a good temperature drop in order to fruit (from 75-85F spawn run down to 50-60F for fruiting).

My house is always at 70F...^ is why i'm trying to drop temps. in the terrium...Here's what I was thinking...

I could do a TiT, and on the bottom perhaps put..air?(lol)..

And then Wrap it with Those heating/cooling bags, that way the ice would last longer....I'll probably have to change the air more than i'd like, but i've got an ice maker :smirk:, so it's not that big of a prob...

Anyone feel like commenting? Thankx

-Gnostic

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3888320 - 03/08/05 04:31 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

put them outside over night


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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: tahoe]
    #3888327 - 03/08/05 04:32 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

plus the temp drop from 85 to 70 the brought back up to 78 will trigger it


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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: tahoe]
    #3888403 - 03/08/05 04:42 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

put water in a plastic container that can be sealed. freeze it. clean the outside with rubbing alcohol and put it in your fruiting device.

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3888460 - 03/08/05 04:52 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

Yea good idea brew :thumbup:
I was thinking of something like that..

And in the summer/spring temps. get up to 80s-100s...so outside...yea :thumbdown:

I'll test it out as soon as I get the room for it, Haven't even got the print yet lol, much less sub. haha, thankx guys

Anyone else have any comments,ideas,suggestions?...

-Gnostic

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3888537 - 03/08/05 05:11 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

I'm going to acquire a small refridgerator to fruit cooler temperature species. I can't see any other practical way to do it.


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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: dog]
    #3888714 - 03/08/05 05:45 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

You could do the reverse of my incubator. I have a giant icechest I use(it will hold 188 cans of beer hehe) with a gallon pickle jar with a 10-20gallon fish tank heater inside. You could possibly fill the jar with ice, or some of those refreezable packet things. Just monitor your temps regularly until you find a way to maintain a good temp range.


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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #3888776 - 03/08/05 05:57 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

I use something similar to fruit cubensis, but it will not work for cooler loving species. Summertime temps in my region regularly exceed 115OF.


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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: dog]
    #3888787 - 03/08/05 05:59 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

Ice also is a very fluctating thing. For species that require the cold to fruit..they often will need more steady temps then just some ice every now and then. Cubies are more forgiving..


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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3888803 - 03/08/05 06:03 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

Yea true, but making ice is no prob. I can make Nice sized blocks in my freezer over night and I have an ice maker, More work than cubes no doubt...:(, but that work to me would be well worth it...

Plus I was thinking that maybe I could cut one of those Hot/Cold bags around the Chamber to help it stay cool so that the ice wouldn't melt as fast :thumbup:

Not sure how well it'd work, but if the bags are easy and not to expensive then i'll see what i can do :grin:

-Gnostic

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3888827 - 03/08/05 06:08 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

And dog, I really like that idea :thumbup:

Sounds like i've got some looking around to do...One prob. tho...

It'd be like a dead freezer, cept it would be dead :smirk:
lol Perhaps You could make a hole on one side to let in a hose that connects to an air pump, have that tube connect to an airstone(kind of like the PmP) ..So viola, new air circulating...Now to get rid of the + pressure...Hm...Maybe another hole on the other side stuffed w/ polyfil?...Hm, might let out to much cool air though...damn...

I hope that Agar gets better soon and helps us out, :thumbup:
He's just good like that :grin: :smirk:

-Gnostic

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3888858 - 03/08/05 06:13 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

I haven't thought through all the details yet. I'm still trying to find the fridge that fits my budget.


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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: dog]
    #3888963 - 03/08/05 06:26 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

Lol,

Here's a link, not sure what your budget is, but these seem cheap...but then again i'm not sure what a regular new one costs :shrug:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=71261&item=3878807880&rd=1

Not bad...But it would only fit like to small casings, and then there's the prob. of getting light to it...Lol..This might turn out to be a bit harder...But it'd be automated, that'd def. be a plus :thumbup:

-Gnostic

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3889529 - 03/08/05 08:42 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

So, anyone else have any ideas? If not i'll go the cheap way

Building a TiT/PmP and i'll put ice where the fishtank heater would normally go, might even get those hot/cold bags and wrap the tank in that to help it stay kool...Anyone got a better idea that won't cost me lots of $$$? :smirk:
I'll buy a mini fridge and try that when i get sum $$$

Thankx everyone

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3889588 - 03/08/05 08:55 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

what about dry ice in the tank??? havn't ever done it, but it sounds like it'd work, GL

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: SHROOMpimp]
    #3889630 - 03/08/05 09:03 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

Hmm.Dry ice....That sounds like less of a hassle but I have no idea how to make it or where to buy it from lol, all i kno is that it doesnt melt, it evaps, lol :smirk:

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3889631 - 03/08/05 09:03 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

Quote:

IGnosticAbhorI said:
So, anyone else have any ideas?




Instead of ice, buy a few of these:




Get twice as many than you'll actually have in the tit at a time, so that you can continually just rotate them out of the freezer as they thaw.


More pricey: convert something like this or this into a pmp


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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: VALIS]
    #3889689 - 03/08/05 09:16 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

if you were interested in the dry ice you can usually get it at wal-mart for less than $5 a pound, all dry ice is is frozen carbon dioxide right?

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: SHROOMpimp]
    #3889702 - 03/08/05 09:18 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

I have no idea, but ice packs sound like the way to go :thumbup:
Thankx everyone

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Re: We like it Nice and Cold dot dot dot [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3889705 - 03/08/05 09:19 PM (19 years, 24 days ago)

Quote:

brewwhaha1 said:
put water in a plastic container that can be sealed. freeze it. clean the outside with rubbing alcohol and put it in your fruiting device.




Or he could Make a tit pmp with the outside tub being a coleman cooler for insulation. Then in the pmp instead of water and lava rock use water and ice.


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