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 tahoe
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 Breathing effect of Tyvek 
#3888413 - 03/08/05 04:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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You ever notice that when a tyvek sealed grain jar infects the tyvek puffs up from the rapid production of gasses.
Also, this is why i wont use tyvek any more. when you puncture it and pull the needle out it creates a small vacuum that can suck unfiltered air back in.
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: tahoe]
#3888473 - 03/08/05 04:55 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, What's so great about tyvek? I mean it doesnt really make your shit breath, just try breathing through a peice of paper, you cant.
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tyvek is pointless when making jars imo. i get great results not even bothering with it. just a layer of tinfoil over the holes in the lid and a layer of tinfoil over the first layer of tinfoil after inoculation and you're rolling.
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Anno
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> I mean it doesnt really make your shit breath
It is not supposed to make your shit breath, it is supposed to allow gas exchange of grain jars without letting contaminants in, and it does so splendidly.
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: Anno]
#3888501 - 03/08/05 05:01 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said:
> I mean it doesnt really make your shit breath
It is not supposed to make your shit breath, it is supposed to allow gas exchange of grain jars without letting contaminants in, and it does so splendidly.
If you have shit breath, tic tacks will help...
Today...I believe he was talking of grain jars, not the PF Tek.
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tahoe
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: scatmanrav]
#3888539 - 03/08/05 05:12 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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im not talking about the gas going through the tyvek, im talking about the up/down motion of the tyvek. Its like a little set of lungs for your jar.
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Anno
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: tahoe]
#3888542 - 03/08/05 05:13 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never noticed those lungs in my jars.
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: tahoe]
#3888584 - 03/08/05 05:22 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
tahoe said:
im not talking about the gas going through the tyvek, im talking about the up/down motion of the tyvek. Its like a little set of lungs for your jar.
Putting it on tightly and using large squares instead of circles helps get it all under the threads and seal it on well so when you pull the needle out, the tyvek stays taught and doesnt come up a little, has no slack.
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KaptKid
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: tahoe]
#3888640 - 03/08/05 05:30 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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When my tyvek buldged it was from comtan's making more gas than it would release.
Bummer
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hyphae
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: KaptKid]
#3891556 - 03/09/05 06:37 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I suppose it would matter if we were all growing contams  I myself keep incubating jars in a clean enclosed container and sometimes I just crack the lids slightly to allow for gas exchange with a 0% contam rate with no tyvek. Contams can proliferate extremely quickly apparently faster than tyvek can release their gases. Good observation tahoe.
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: hyphae]
#3891709 - 03/09/05 07:48 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I still keep my record of 0% contamination in 8 months and all i use is johnson & johnson breathable cloth tape over the holes in my jars. tyvek is a great invention IMHO. it isn't really paper like at all though. it has all these really really tiny holes in it. i use it for the CO2 hole in my BIG casings tubs.
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: thenewguy05]
#3891837 - 03/09/05 08:46 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I haven't had a single contam using tyvek 
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: GlassOnion]
#3891932 - 03/09/05 09:16 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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One of the best things I've found since i've came back to the hobby is Tyvek. Works like a champ. Does what it's ment to do. And best of all.....it's free!
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tahoe
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: scatmanrav]
#3899658 - 03/10/05 07:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
scatmanrav said:
Putting it on tightly and using large squares instead of circles helps get it all under the threads and seal it on well so when you pull the needle out, the tyvek stays taught and doesnt come up a little, has no slack.
They are squares, and they were doubled up on this jar. Its argaricus blazie.
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hyphae
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: tahoe]
#3899676 - 03/10/05 07:30 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah my favorite edible! Almond ports! Whats the sub your using tahoe?
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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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tahoe
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: hyphae]
#3899761 - 03/10/05 07:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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wally world wbs. Im thikning of useing it as spawn but i dont kow yet. Whats awesome is that this is a clone from a fungi perfecti kit and fp has acclimated the species to a wood lover. They recomend an alder/bran mixture for fruiting
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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.
My Legacy
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Edited by tahoe (03/10/05 07:49 PM)
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hyphae
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: tahoe]
#3899799 - 03/10/05 07:53 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Have you fruited on it (WBS) yet? As a spawn it looks very healthy.
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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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tahoe
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: hyphae]
#3899826 - 03/10/05 08:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think the flash added alot of the white, it stinks and is producin gas at a high rate. Enough for it to push the tyvek up. I havent fruited it on grain yet. I have it on agar and i am soaking some alder right now so i might brew it up wood since this jar contamed
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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.
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Anno
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: tahoe]
#3899836 - 03/10/05 08:02 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Perhaps you shouldn't use a double layer if your tyvek already comes pretty thick.
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tahoe
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Re: Breathing effect of Tyvek [Re: Anno]
#3899862 - 03/10/05 08:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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the breathing is lessened with a double layer used for syringe inoculations, but i guess it would clog up the gas exchange
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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.
My Legacy
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Teh=The
I need to proofread
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