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Offlineicculus_
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a couple boring casing questions
    #3886971 - 03/08/05 01:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hey dudes, just getting ready to try my first casings out on some ecuadors and golden teachers.  the jars are near full colinization and im getting a little antsy... but heres a couple questions i wanted to ask. i was considering using only peat moss and a small amount of hydrated lyme, is this a bad idea? would i be much better off adding vermiculite? anyone tried only peat moss, if so howd it work out? i realize dung/straw is better in general, so please dont suggest that, i already bought the peat :smile:. also im sure this is in the faq, but, how do i know when my casing have the correct water content? im especially concerned about this if i use only peat; is squeezing it a good way to find out? it also seems like if water is added to the casing mix before its sterilized in the oven it will lose moisture rapidly while being heated? can water be added directly to casing when necessary, by misting probably? sorry for the mundane questions, any help is appriciated.


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: icculus_]
    #3886990 - 03/08/05 01:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If at all possible use some verm with the peat. I dont know the ratio because I use verm or verm and coir. Straw/dung is not a replacement for verm or peat as a casing layer. It is a bulk substrate.

You should check out the mushroom cultivation archive, look under casing, and bulk substrates..


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: icculus_]
    #3886998 - 03/08/05 01:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

OK... well as for the lime if you have something to read the ph of your substrate go ahead otherwise you are wasteing your time not knowing wheather you mixed it right or not.about the water content... you want it wet but not soaked. When you take a handful of the substrate, and you squeeze your fist as hard as you can, and a little trickle of water runs out of your fingers, you know you have added enough water.
read this tek.


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: thenewguy05]
    #3887033 - 03/08/05 01:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hmm, well i was under the impression that if im not doing straw/dung i didnt need to pasteurize, just bake, is that incorrect? thanks already for the advice. also, is hydrated lime worth the hassle if i were to get some ph paper maybe?


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: icculus_]
    #3887040 - 03/08/05 01:39 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

In this case you need to sterilize your grain, and your casing mix.


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3887084 - 03/08/05 01:52 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

sterilize my grain? now im really confused, i spawned on verm, i was planning on using verm on bottom, peat on top, where the grain?


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: icculus_]
    #3887089 - 03/08/05 01:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

1) what is your mycellium grown on?
2) what are you useing as a bulk substrate?
3) Lime is going to balance ph. if you can tell what ph is then it's worth doing but if you are just throwing lime around it's a waste of time.


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: thenewguy05]
    #3887100 - 03/08/05 01:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

my mycellium was grown on verm/brf. im not using a bulk substrate.


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: icculus_]
    #3887114 - 03/08/05 02:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

UM you need a bulk substrate or you will be spawning a non-nutritous layer. peat is a casing layer not a substrate.


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: thenewguy05]
    #3887130 - 03/08/05 02:08 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

im not innoculating anything, the jars have already been inoculated and colonized, im simply adding colonized cakes, crumbled up, under a peat casing layer.


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: icculus_]
    #3887142 - 03/08/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

there is no bulk substrate involved in this grow, does that make sense?


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: icculus_]
    #3887378 - 03/08/05 03:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

anyone else have thoughts on this post? i feel pretty unsatisfied


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Re: a couple boring casing questions [Re: icculus_]
    #3887433 - 03/08/05 03:28 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hey dude, it's advised that you just follow the 50/50+ casing tek (vermiculite/peat+buffer), but if you're feeling adventerous with the peat + buffer casing, you should probably get a pH meter to make sure you get the proportion right. If I were you, I would just use the vermiculite since you already have it though!


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