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Offlineegghead1
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This Centuries Cold Politics
    #3886225 - 03/08/05 08:05 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

This century's politics leave me cold, failing to touch my heart. I was mad and saddened about the outcome of the Florida election four years ago, but I got over it. Like so many, I have been alarmed by our current regime's weapons of mass distraction and its unconscious, uncompassionate conservatism; however, I am trying to take a more long term view. The truth is I feel I can't trust these people, can't seem find much truth-telling amidst all the spin and media, and that our leaders fail to touch my heart.

Decades ago, RFK said that politics is a noble profession, and no one snickered. I doubt we could say the same today. I long for some serious and sincere statesman to step up and lead us, but fear our country is not ready to either recognize or produce such people. It hurt when Wellstone of Minnesota and Tsongas of Massachusetts both met untimely deaths; I truly liked them both. Where will the future leaders of our country come from? Who in their right mind would enter and persevere, surviving in the bitter swamp of our cynical partisan political system long enough to emerge as a real candidate for high office in this country? What if anything are we doing to inculcate wisdom, enlightened leadership and selfless service as a core value in the younger generations today?

Is America a real democracy, an oligarchy or a plutocracy?

On Inauguration Day in January, I know several people--intelligent friends of mine--who were in a state of what they called "active mourning". Getting together to bemoan the state of things, they wondered about what's next, what can be done, how to proceed in a positive way during the next four years, and so forth. I myself have been in a state of reflection during the last period, particularly since I find that introspective quality extraordinarily lacking in politics and world affairs--at least as we have to come to know it.

The State of the Union did nothing to assuage my Inner Depressive. I felt our president to be a genuine zealot in effort to convert the world to our American way of life and consumer democracy, hidden just beneath the oft repeated mantric buzz word freedom. I feel that I can love him as a soul but not as the rough-riding person he pretends to be.

During last year's presidential campaign I was initially interested in Dennis Kucinich and what he had to say. However, after seeing him close up, it was obvious that he was both extraordinary and unelectable. Governor Dean caught my attention--I particularly appreciated the way his team utilized the Internet to mobilize people and raise funds, but I was ultimately willing later to go along with the party and think that Kerry would do a good enough job of it. I still remained skeptical of his chances against the incumbent and all the fierce forces of true believers marshalled again him.

Now I sense a certain despair and feelings of hopelessness and helplessness among those who were disappointed with the election's eventual outcome. But I don't think this setback is a good excuse to give up or give in to the powers that (seem to) be. Thoreau said: "If we will be quiet and ready enough, we shall find compensation in every disappointment."


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Edited by egghead1 (03/08/05 11:03 AM)


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: egghead1]
    #3886528 - 03/08/05 11:11 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

ok.  :yawn:


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: egghead1]
    #3886885 - 03/08/05 12:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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egghead1 said:
This century's politics leave me cold, failing to touch my heart.



Good, they should, as it is politics and not a Disney movie.
Did last centuries politics touch your heart?


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: egghead1]
    #3886962 - 03/08/05 01:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

these situations only show that you can do nothing on a personal level to directly influence politics. Live for what you live for with all the passion you can, as it is the only way to have yourself be heard


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: vampirism]
    #3887005 - 03/08/05 01:28 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Before the cold war and after the depression every bourgeoisie had a lavish lifestyle and it mostly stays the same. This century's politics have been overwhemingly dominated by neo-conservatives (Cold War to Current Events). I don't think it's a real big mystery. The oppression of many indigenous peoples is still going on. So much trouble in the world.

As i typed in a discussion group i am in:
"I think most politicians do believe themselves, or at least view the
world in a perspective of 'it just is.' I have an example. In the
birth years of Neo-Conservatives, they studied theories and concepts
formulated by a man named Leo Strauss. Strauss believed that decieving
the public was crucial to keep the state intact and empowered. The
Neo-Conservatives started the practices during the Cold War days and
created this mass illusion of a giant evil that is the Soviet Union.
They used propaganda, blatant lies, and fake evidence to validate
their causes and arguements. It was a very flawed arguement, but they
one the public opinion anyways. They did the same thing with Al Queda.
In fact, they are the ones that made the name 'Al Queda.' Usama Bin
Laden is only surronded by a small number of people who support him,
and he supports them with money. They created this illusion that he
was in control of a giant group of people across the world. He isn't.
Now, i think it is where they believe their own lies. It's like
walking into a dark void and being enveloped by the darkness. When you
get too far in you lose track of light and are lost forever."

The Islamist movement has failed but the neo-conservatives need it to push on and be in control. The genocide in Africa & across the world continues. These politics are extremely cold, you shouldn't even be able to feel yourself.
Politics have been cold forever.
The reason politics are cold is because politicians lie, cheat, & style like criminals. Governments lie, cheat, & steal.


Edited by trick (03/08/05 01:30 PM)


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: trick]
    #3887066 - 03/08/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

A historical social constant-politics are cold.
History repeats itself, politics are subject to this.


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: California]
    #3888598 - 03/08/05 07:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Since when was politics not cold? Do you think before the last 100 years it was all hugs and kisses?


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #3910316 - 03/13/05 04:08 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Are you depressed because a majority of Americans don't share your world view? Boo hoo. Get a grip.


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3910361 - 03/13/05 04:29 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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JesusChrist said:
Are you depressed because a majority of Americans don't share your world view?  Boo hoo.  Get a grip.




I am  :tongue:. Yeah... most believe in the force feed bullshit given to them by the media.

It's a cause for concern. You should realize this JesusChrist.


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: egghead1]
    #3910741 - 03/13/05 10:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

There have been colder centuries.


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: Gijith]
    #3910748 - 03/13/05 10:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Did most of you only read the first few words of my post?  :egg:


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Re: This Centuries Cold Politics [Re: egghead1]
    #3912332 - 03/13/05 06:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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egghead1 said:
Did most of you only read the first few words of my post?  :egg:




Yes. But... I'm not nearly as optimistic as Thoreau...


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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