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Cray
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Casing experience needed
#3883085 - 03/07/05 02:56 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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this is my first time, should I wait and just fruit my cakes, or should I do casing? Just wondering, why is it more dangerous to do casing, I know you can catch contams but once the mycelial is colonized shouldn't it be strong enough to fight off the contams? What are the chances of getting contam? 50/50?
The methods I've been reading about are: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23805 http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7971
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Re: Casing experience needed [Re: Cray]
#3883097 - 03/07/05 02:59 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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id imagine the increased chance of contams is because fo crumbling the cakes, which u dont have to do you can always leave them whole and case them like that but idk wut the chances are of getting contams that would be hard to figure out to an acurate measure
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Cray
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yea, crumbling the cakes, as long as I am really really clean, should do fine right?
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Re: Casing experience needed [Re: Cray]
#3883125 - 03/07/05 03:05 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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hopefully but u can be as clean as u can possibly be and still have a random mold spore wander into your shit btu yea being careful defintley cuts down on ure chances
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Cray
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yep, but my tech and guidelines above good to use and follow? like put the cake in a zip lock bag in crumble it?
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Re: Casing experience needed [Re: Cray]
#3883188 - 03/07/05 03:20 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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if thats wut u want to do is crumble then go ahead, but yes all those teks are good u know they are good because they r on the shroomery!
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Cray
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right! ok I'll do that! :-) Hope it goes well.
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Contams in a casing are more likely to come from your casing layer itself, not the substrate. Crumbled or whole, colonized material is very resistant to contamination. Any and all issues I've ever had with contaminated casings were from the casing LAYER itself, not the substrate. Peat makes a better casing layer, but it is more prone to contamination then coco coir. This is my experience.
With that said, I'd recommend casing. It's easier to achieve the humidity needed to pin a casing (90%) then try to fruit a stubborn cake and mess with those lava rocks or that awful perlite.
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Cray
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Re: Casing experience needed [Re: Holydiver]
#3883232 - 03/07/05 03:27 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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k, so just have serlized verm for the casing layer? Whats the BEST for good results and not getting contams.
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Re: Casing experience needed [Re: Cray]
#3883244 - 03/07/05 03:31 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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mix the verm with water, put it in jars and pc or boil for a while, or better yet mix up your whole casing layer (50/50+ or whichever) unless ure casing in verm alone, in which case that would be ure whole casing layer, and then sterilize in jars
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Cray
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yea, I was thinkin that, I got a couple of quart jars around... I can steam sterlize them.
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Re: Casing experience needed [Re: Cray]
#3883282 - 03/07/05 03:38 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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how thick is the casing layer, 1/4"?
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Re: Casing experience needed [Re: Cray]
#3883294 - 03/07/05 03:40 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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its a ratio of 1:4 so if u have a 1 inch layer of substrate then yes you would have a 1/4" casing layer
-------------------- MY Glove Box, Automated Terrarium, and Incubator Lil' Wyte, Three Six Mafia, Project Pat will bring it to ya door if theres ana on ya chest. THE PATRIOT ACT MAY BE THE DOOM OF US ALL! THEY CAN GET THINGS LIKE YOUR MEDICAL/LEGAL RECORDS, YOUR INTERNET HISTORY, YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH INFORMATION, ALL WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE OR A WARRANT! ALSO NO ONE CAN LEGALLY TELL YOU. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE, THIS ISN'T EXACTLY A FREE COUNTRY ANYMORE NOW IS IT? THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY SO THEY CAN GET RICHER! THE WAR IN IRAQ ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING! HELP GET THE CONSERVATIVE RIGHT WING-NUTS OUT OF POWER, MAKE AN EDUCATED VOTE!
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Cray
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ratio.. wtf... uh... ok I'll try making it 1inch.
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Re: Casing experience needed [Re: Cray]
#3883337 - 03/07/05 03:50 PM (19 years, 25 days ago) |
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just use the cakes and get good at it eat you harvest and that will modavate u to get better just be simple and eat or be diffucult and dont eat which one sounds good
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