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PmP Q's
    #3880651 - 03/07/05 12:50 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The following chart shows how much air needs to be pumped out to get to the 2-3 air exchanges per hour rate sugged in the Poor Man's Pod (PMP) tek for a container of a given size. Values are in cubic centimeters per hour and liters per hour.


10 Gallon: 1297-1945 ccm/min | 78-117 L/hr
20 Gallon: 2593-3890 ccm/min | 156-233 L/hr
30 Gallon: 3890-5835 ccm/min | 234-350 L/hr
40 Gallon: 5188-7780 ccm/min | 312-468 L/hr
50 Gallon: 6485-9725 ccm/min | 390-585 L/hr

How do I read this exactly?

My FC is 62 liters and My pump does about 20-30gallons ccm/min I believe.

Well, since my pump pumps 2x as much air per hour as needed for my FC (if im reading this correctly) Then could I...

A) Put one airstone in and let that run 3x per every 4 hours
B) Put in both and run for only 30mintues 3x per every 4 hours...
C) There really isn't a C but it sounds better when you have 3 letters

EDIT....does it mean for every hour? Fuck...lol

Also....

This is a quote from Magash's PmP

"Make two small holes about 4.5" from the bottom of the container just big enough to fit the tubing for the air pump in(hot nail works best)and connect bubble wands to the pump hoses ran through the side of your rubbermaid,and fill up rubbermaid with 2" to 2.5" of water and then fill with perlite or grow rocks or lava rocks till you have 1" to 1.5" of space between the water and top layer of perlite/grow rocks."

And then later he says..

"Hook up your hoses and put in the geolite (3 1/2 inches deep). I ran them through the side."

So should I...
A) Run my hoses through the bottom
B) Or through the side?
C) Am I reading this wrong as well? :lol:

The side seems like a better idea but i'm just trying to clear things up, messing up simple things isn't fun :smirk:

Thankx everyone it's late and i'm tired, hope I don't sound like an idiot :smirk:

Edit: Another Q

If my rocks are at the same level as my water (2in), what does that do exactly? Lower my humidity levels? I waas curious as to what the rocks do physically...Trying to understand this a bit more, all i've found so far is that " they put moisture in the air"...and i'm thinking, yea no shit...lol

-Gnostic


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3880668 - 03/07/05 12:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know how that works either. I have a 60qt container with a 20 gallon pump. I got the two wands running under the perlite.


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3880675 - 03/07/05 12:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

So I have a 78-117 L/hr FC....well mines 62L's...but its in that range...So How long should I run per hour? OR Should I run once every four?

...shit...haha

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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882128 - 03/07/05 12:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882142 - 03/07/05 12:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Leave your pump on all the time.


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3882173 - 03/07/05 12:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Umm...I'm pumping in 2x-3x as much air that's needed for my PmP

But i need to know if I should...
A)Put it just one Large airstone(theres real long ones, short ones and tiny ones lol,i'll get dimensions if i can find them)
B)Put in 2 medium airstones
C)Run it ever hour for so long.

Running that bitch 24\7 seems like a waste of eletricity and like it wouldn't really be necessary...Fuck, Well, ill probably just use a crappier pump I guess and only 1 large airstone....only prob. is that the 10g pumps are kinda old(?) i guess, chuz they can't even get the air to pump through, maybe a tiny bit, but thats it...I'd hate to wear my new pump out like that if i don't need to, anyone else have any ideas? Thankx shroomguy :cheers:


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882180 - 03/07/05 12:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You can get a 10 gallon pump from wal-mart or anywhere. I have the 20 gallon but I just leave it on all the time. The more air they can get, the better. Think about it. Shrooms out in the wild get sooo much fresh air. The more air they have to breathe the easier it is for them. Think about being in a small container, where the air only changes abouut every hour or so. It would be like breathing in CO2 mostly. You could probably get away with running it less time. But my suggestion would be, just let it run and do its thing :smile:


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882194 - 03/07/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

O, and you use perlite? Perlite can almost keep the terrium humid w/o any pumps, it's in its own class when it comes to humidity :smirk:

I'm using lava rocks, couldn't find the geo-lite...Plus I reuse perlite until it's...well sand lol....I noticed that it clogs up your airstones Real easy...

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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882197 - 03/07/05 01:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah. I'm using perlite this time around. Couldn't find geolite or hydroton and didn't really look for lava rock. I am going to switch to one of those after this grow. And also going to start up some casings and bulk.


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3882213 - 03/07/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hell yea, That's what i'm going after, Going to make a big casing that will take up almost my whole terrium and then do a cake, or just do several casings, probably do that...And w/e sub. that i don't need i'll just leave as cakes :thumbup:

Humidity with either be in the 90s or the high 95^s, b/c the cakes need more and the casings need less...Well no, it'll stay in the 90s, don't want overlay on my casing and the cakes are just kind of like side projects anyways...yea

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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882221 - 03/07/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah. In my terrarium, the humidity is kinda high. I don't want to put casings in there with it, because I don't want to fuck up both. I guess I'll just get a rubbermaid container, put perlite in the bottom. spray and put the casing in there. I am waiting for my popcorn kernels to colonize now. I am gonna get some wbs soon.


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3882275 - 03/07/05 01:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I tried wbs for awhile, it always contamed with green mold, I soaked for about 20hrs, simmered if need-B, then i pc-ed for 1h and 20mintues....after many failures i ended up pc-ing for 2 hours...they all contamed, so im on pf tek Again lol, but i'm going to buy rye soon, i hear that it works wonders :smirk:

And if you leave you humidity to about 95%, then cakes shouldn't do to terribly bad in terms of yields, and the casing should be fine, personally 90s should be good.

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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882280 - 03/07/05 01:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I can't control the humidity.


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3882287 - 03/07/05 01:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hm...You said that you're using air pumps...Air stones? And perlite right?

All you need is a time-controler switch thing lol. They see them at places like wal-mart, costco, ace hardware, home depo, lowe's ect...

Plug your pumps into it and set it to come on every hour or so instead of 24/7, that'd lower you himidity a bit for casings..:thumbup:

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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882310 - 03/07/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds good. I might go get one when I get some money...Ugh I miss my job.


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3882331 - 03/07/05 01:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

lol, yea, that's a bitch. J.o.bs def. help when ya need the $$$, well good luck with it, you should post about it when ur done and see what people think :smirk:
gl :cheers:

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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882333 - 03/07/05 01:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks. I will. I posted about what I did and stuff under Testing Something.


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3882339 - 03/07/05 01:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Lol, koo. Anyone else feel like helping me out w/ my lil prob.?

I kinda want to drill the holes today and don't want to have more than i need :smirk: , tnkx

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Re: PmP Q's [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3882363 - 03/07/05 02:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Oh. And the holes, I drilled two 1/4 inch holes in the top of mine yesterday :smile: I think alot of people recommend 1/2 inch holes.


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Re: PmP Q's [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3882383 - 03/07/05 02:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You mean for the polyfil?

If so, then yea, it helps release + pressure and the polyfil keeps contams out...although you need to change it when it gets wet or when it's been in there after a grow. :thumbup:

-Gnostic

I just want to know how many hoses i need in there considering that i'm getting 2x the amount of air needed...Id hate to drill to holes if i only need one(for the hoses)

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