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Voacanga Africana
    #3877003 - 03/06/05 01:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So after sitting on these seeds for the last four moons, and noticing Erowid still only has one report, I decided to give it a go.

Background:  Contains alkaloids similar to Iboga.  Has been said to increase dreams, and is used to pharmsuitically to treat something.  High doses are bad.

I know this info sucks, just wondered other's experience.

Well, lately I've been trying to log my dreams again.  Doing reality tests and such.  I usually only smoke a couple grams of Cannabis a month--full time work and school.  I've read grass interferes with dream recall, and haven't smoked three days prior.

Chewed 22 seeds, slightly bitter.  Layed down on couch, set the timer and quickly fell asleep.  Got up, turned off lights and went to bed.

Woke up at my usual waking time, six hours after going to bed.

Now here's the thing.  I woke remembering my main dream, very intense, detailed fun stuff.  California was on the East coast, and I had gone to BC to go Scuba diving.  I thought I was fully awake, but proceeded to re-enter dream state, having three more dreams each with their own plot, while still remembering the first.

After waking, I seemed to go instantly into deep REM, got lucid once, got the kind of dreams I only get a couple times a month.  Most of the dreams became unpleasant, but were heavy lessons for me :smile:

I'd definately say it's worth not smoking for a week to try these out.

And similar to the report on Erowid, some didn't seem at all like dreams, it was more like my spirit was on a different layer, while my body was shut down, like did that just happen?

Anyone try this yet?


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: namaste]
    #3877025 - 03/06/05 01:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Im a closet fan of lucid dreaming, havent really pursued teks and what not, ive been looking for some good dream ethnos.


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #3877047 - 03/06/05 01:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I was really into for a few years, I could fill a notebook in a month.  Then my life took a drastic change and I haven't written much since last summer.

After this experience, I received a message that they will be coming back.

Since so little is known about this plant, hopefully more people will take an interest.  The bark contains 5-10X more alks, but I don't know at what level it becomes dangerous.

I believe 20-50 seeds is a safe dose.  BTW I got mine as a free sample from Shamanspalace.  Thanks :sun:


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: namaste]
    #3877238 - 03/06/05 02:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have a couple small voacanga plants growing. I'll take and post some pics soon.


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    #3882036 - 03/07/05 11:55 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: pod3]
    #3882123 - 03/07/05 12:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'v had some of the bark for nearly a year...I'm fairly intimidated to try it.


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: rdnp2035]
    #3887885 - 03/08/05 05:03 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'd suggest grinding the bark to a powder and taking extremely small doses.

Stoney and Pod, have you guys thought about ingesting the leaves? I'm still curious to see some pics.


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: namaste]
    #3888595 - 03/08/05 07:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Very interesting!


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    #3903080 - 03/11/05 03:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: pod3]
    #4034542 - 04/09/05 04:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Another noteworthy experience.

Well, I had strep throat this week.  Missed two days of work, and smoked grass four nights in row to alleviate the lameness of being sick.  I'm usually a twice a week smoker, on the last night I decided it would be a good time to test out the bark.

erowid info

I chewed 500 mgs of the bitter bark to pulp before swallowing.  I didn't notice much beyond my normal sleep dementia.  But the next night I didn't smoke and must have hit some serious REM rebound.  I became fully lucid. "I was bouldering on some bluffs near my home, when stuck I would just let go and fall, then hover a few feet above the ground." According to my notebook, this was the first Lucid Dream since last moon when I chewed the seeds.

Coincidence? Placebo?  Could be, but it definately has alkaloids.  And unlike the erowid report, I didn't notice any ill feelings directly from the bark :thumbup:



This was seriously the most fun I have had in a long time.


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: namaste]
    #4047947 - 04/12/05 11:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yah I think I have some seeds of it growing, I think they just sprouted. I have like 20 different kinds of plants spouting so I am not 100% sure if those were the vocs or not. The sprouted up with part of a seed on and the seed sure looks like those black seeds. I got some seeds for like $3 shipped from ebay lol.


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4048631 - 04/13/05 02:44 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That's always fun when you lose track of what was planted and have no idea what is growing...LOL

Well, the volunteer spots are full and samples were mailed. Now for the reports :laugh:


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: namaste]
    #4049019 - 04/13/05 05:26 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Well I will be able to identify them once they have grown anyways so who cares.


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: namaste]
    #4104331 - 04/27/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

This is going to be consumed tonight...


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: gdman]
    #4241482 - 05/31/05 09:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

This is Awsome!!

About 200 of the seeds arrived at my door yesterday.

Im going to pick a good night to eat and dream away.

BTW..

Anyone have any idea if Voacanga africana would be good in combo with Cubes or Syrian Rue? Dangerous??

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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: Dickhead]
    #4241543 - 05/31/05 09:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Unfortunately, I did not have any dreams to speak of, I felt a little off base when I was awake, but it did not affect my dream pattern. Bummer. Though now I'm even more intrigued and I'll probably order some seeds and try to grow some out.


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: gdman]
    #4241605 - 05/31/05 09:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I recommend eating the bark as opposed to eating the seeds. I have some little voacanga sprouts from the free seeds i got. I still have 1 gram of root bark i'm gonna try out whenever i stop smoking pot for a week (probably a long time, lol).


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #4241609 - 05/31/05 09:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I was thinking about growing some seeds.


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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: gdman]
    #4241664 - 05/31/05 10:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

just becareful everybody, always safety first...ibogaine has killed a few people...

i believe its actually still legal in canada....

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Re: Voacanga Africana [Re: captmueller]
    #4241707 - 05/31/05 10:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You're right safety is important in these matters. It's not ibogaine, but contains a few similar alkaloids as ibogaine. One of the shroomery sponsors now sells iboga root bark (www.psychoactiveherbs.com), kinda pricey though.


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