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OfflineDivided_Sky
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Tips for Anxiety While Tripping?
    #3875441 - 03/06/05 02:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's so hard for me to relax until after the peak. I get real nervous and that nervous energy gets me very hyper and chatty. Once the peak starts to wane (or I get so far out that I can't even remember what anxiety is) I feel very calm and at peace. But for the first few hours I get too tense. I usually take mescaline so it takes a really long time to get past the peak.

Anybody have some suggestions of how to relax (both outwardly and inwardly) better, esp. when dealing with a longer trip?


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3875523 - 03/06/05 02:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I hear ya pal. I wonder if the anxiety is trepidation over the emotional flood you know is comming or an actual effect on your sympathetic nervous system. I think your best bet is to control the conditions of your trip in advance. 3 or less people. Seems like the more people I invite or the more plans i make for what we'll do the more anxious I get when the trip comes and everything goes to shit. A little ganj helps , but id hold out as long as you can till you're near the peak. It def takes the edge off and things get more cheery. :spliff:


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: erags]
    #3877398 - 03/06/05 03:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe like a couple shots of alcohol? Alcohol definitely has helped me out on making my trips more relaxed.
Dont drink to get drunk, just enough to where youd start to get alittle more talkative and comfortable.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Veter]
    #3877415 - 03/06/05 03:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I like to re-read The Psychedelic Experience the day before I know I'm going to trip, and to smoke before I take whatever I'm taking, and then personally I keep smoking pretty consistently unless I feel like it's not doing much more to enhance the trip. My advice would really just to like mentally coach yourself beforehand.

Also for me, alcohol is completely revolting when I'm tripping, but if it's worked for other people it might work for you.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #3880498 - 03/07/05 12:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I agree completely, and have a similar ritual... but I have had some decent experiences with... like... a beer to calm things before the trip.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Rose]
    #3880920 - 03/07/05 02:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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a beer to calm things before the trip



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lcohol definitely has helped me out on making my trips more relaxed.




Sorry to hijack on a tangent that was brought up, but does anyone know if alcohol diminishes the effects of mushrooms or might complicate the liver tox issue? Thanks


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3881355 - 03/07/05 04:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've been trying something new when coming up on shrooms...that first 30 minutes is quite tense for me as well. But the past few times I've tripped I've forced myself to examine every detail of my life (specific trouble spots) and I make myself confront them. It's like I face what I think might bother me during the trip. Then as the peak comes, I just forget everything, because I feel that it has been resolved. And I have a great time. I've tried this the past few times I've tripped. For me, it really works to face any fears while coming up.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: MOTH]
    #3883305 - 03/07/05 05:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Take deep breaths... think of a happy place, and the great truth that mushrooms show you which is the reason why you are eating them again.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3883648 - 03/07/05 07:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Divided_Sky said:
It's so hard for me to relax until after the peak.




Same here man... I think that's a totally normal, and it's difficult to control a lot of the time because your ego is being dissolved and it causes an inherent sense of anxiety and tension. I'm sort of used to it by now, but there's a couple of things you can do to ease tention. Try sitting down in a chair, arms outstretched - and channel the energy you are feeling through your body. With some practice and experience you can control it.

Music of course is always a big factor.. if things are getting a little bit tense I always fire up Pink Floyd.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: the free thinker]
    #3883910 - 03/07/05 08:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Best advice I could give would be to exercise either before you dose or while your waiting to come up. It'll burn off any corticosteroids (stress hormone) you have floating around your system and it'll also give you a nice boost of natural endorphins which feel amazing on shrooms.

Happy tripping =)


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Edit]
    #3883966 - 03/07/05 08:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"A train wont arrive at the station, before it do.. ..so what is there really to be, waiting for.."
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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Gomp]
    #3884321 - 03/07/05 10:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I heard valium helps a bad trip. I'v never taken it with mushrooms but it's worth a try.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Toker5]
    #3886066 - 03/08/05 06:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mantras can help direct your attention, eg:

"I will come back safe and sound"
"This is not dying, this is not dying"
"everything is love"
"make me an instrument of peace"

Personally I've most recently found that if I whack and thwack away at my bongo drums, along to whatever music is playing I don't even notice the transition.

Oh and - GRIND THOSE SHROOM!!! - reduces emotional turbulance and creates a swift smooth lift off.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3886544 - 03/08/05 11:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with what EllemyshShade said. Other than that sauna or a nice hot bath right before tripping can help to eleminate the undesirable anxiety.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #3888830 - 03/08/05 08:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

OneMoreRobot3021 said:
I like to re-read The Psychedelic Experience the day before I know I'm going to trip, and to smoke before I take whatever I'm taking, and then personally I keep smoking pretty consistently unless I feel like it's not doing much more to enhance the trip. My advice would really just to like mentally coach yourself beforehand.

Also for me, alcohol is completely revolting when I'm tripping, but if it's worked for other people it might work for you.




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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: cubensis_chris]
    #3889217 - 03/08/05 09:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A few hits works for me, that and keeping busy. If you're just sitting around waiting for the trip to come on, then of course you're only going to add to the anxiety. After I eat my mushies, I'll get mildly high and then start drawing. I'm not stoned, but I'm high enough where I get pretty wrapped up in what I'm doing and I tend to forget about the mushrooms for a while. Be careful, more then once I've ended up just drawing for over 5 hours. The trip kicked in and I just kept going and going. Filled up a whole notebook with some pretty bizarre stuff. Anyways, getting high then keeping busy always helps me, give it a shot :thumbup:


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3889253 - 03/08/05 09:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Listen to good music, have a safe place to trip. Change your setting slightly, turn on/off lights, etc. Remember that you will be ok, and have fun :smile:.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: gdman]
    #3889959 - 03/09/05 12:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I light does of benzodiazepines Iv herd may help, maybe alittle cannabis. Meditation and just breathing deep and slowly seems to help out alot though by them selfs.


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: MegaManmx12]
    #3890253 - 03/09/05 01:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've considered benzos, but it could bring the trip down or make too easy that I need them to have a good trip. Excercising sounds cool, but I usual have long fatigueing trips. Good idea though. Meditation has worked pretty well, but that state of mind can be hard to maintain when the craziness starts to happen. And yet that might be my best bet. thanks all


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Re: Tips for Anxiety While Tripping? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3892204 - 03/09/05 12:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Erags: it must be the first one (the emotional one) I used to trip fine my first couple of times than once I really got to know the mush and was actually kinda freaked out of its power I started getting really anxious during my trips but like divided sky it never goes away until after the peak :frown: :frown:


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