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joy...a skill or a reflex?
    #3874690 - 03/05/05 08:29 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

The positive feelings, serenity, feeling filled with life, and general joy over being alive...

In you personal opinion and philosophy, are they a reflex, a conditioned reaction to stimuli, or a skill that can be learned?


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Re: joy...a skill or a reflex? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #3874908 - 03/05/05 09:16 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In my personal experience, primarily they are a skill that can be learned, but sometimes (:mushroom2:) they are reactions to external stimuli.

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Re: joy...a skill or a reflex? [Re: the_phoenix]
    #3875350 - 03/05/05 11:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Well, joy as a characteristic consisting of: positive feelings, serenity, feeling filled with life... is a state of mind.

Many schools/trains of thought suggest that is a learned behavior, others consider it in terms of associations.

For me it's a state, I don't particular associate said feelings with a stimulus, nor do I gain such a reaction from a stimulus. (Don't know how much sense this makes) I associate it with a state of being, and that is the essence of how I feel.

Although, I've known many others, and most react to the feeling in regards to situations and objects. I.E. Sue's parents bought her a care, she is overjoyed by the fact that she has it. Where my state is that wow... it's just a car.

Although not always the case, I'm essentially suggesting that is all of the above, the difference is dependant on the person relating to the experience with one predominant influence (as to their general response)... of course responding to other forms as well.

Are they a reflex or a conditioned reaction to stimuli? Aren't those one in the same philosophically? The only difference of the fact of matter relying to the degree that we are unaware of the cause (reflex being that).

I'd thumb it down to a learned behavior in way of socialization (overall). That is the feeling of joy being associated primarily with success and/or achievment rather then a state of mind (in a loose sense, e.g. people don't experience perma-joy.. some do, but they're outsane).


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Re: joy...a skill or a reflex? [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #3875460 - 03/06/05 12:13 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

joy - side effect of absorption
cultivated and natural


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