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 what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like 
#387420 - 09/06/01 09:28 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have some pint jars of rye grain + 1/2 cup water that i just sterilized and innoculated with mycelium, but the rye is sticking to the sides of the jar and is kind of clumpy. i can break it up when i shake it but i can't get it off the sides of the jars. will it still work? if not what did i do wrong? should i open the jars and scrape the rye off the sides of the jars with a sterilized scalpel or just leave it?
also, there's no goo or pooled water or anything like that, just condensation on the jar and some clumpy-ass grain.
thanks for any help..
sorry if this is a stupid question. i guess i should probably just wait a couple days and see what happens.Edited by Amoeba665 on 09/07/01 01:33 AM.
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: Amoeba665]
#387677 - 09/07/01 02:04 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seems a like a bit too much water. Use a little lesst the next time. It?s about trial and error.
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 Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: Amoeba665]
#387793 - 09/07/01 09:53 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had the same question. I did my first rye up this past week.
First I cooked it too much.. it looked like fluffy rice. Then I was
much more attentive and made sure it didn't cook and hopefully just absorb enough water.
BUT.. after sterilization.. the grain was dry.. and I could shake it like it was
dry seed. I added some sterile water to the jar this am, in hope that the grain might
soak it up. We'll see. Does someone have a close up PIC of rye berries at perfection?
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so much for "grain for retards". I could use some help with this as well.
thanks for posting your question.
Edited by patzee on 09/07/01 10:54 AM.
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: Amoeba665]
#387798 - 09/07/01 09:57 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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it should look something like this:
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: Una]
#387992 - 09/07/01 01:51 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you Una. Boy, mine don't look that at all. They are a lighter color, very similar
to uncooked white rice. What tek do you use? I brought 7cups of rye covered atleast
one inch of water above them to a boil and then
put on simmer for 45min. I had to
keep adding water so they wouldn't cook. I had the gas burner as low as I could get it.
They were rinsed with tap water after. I notice in the picture the grain isn't really
"popped open". It looks like it was baked or toasted and certainly no gummy or clumpy stuff.
I'll be looking up more rye teks .
I hope you return to this thread with alittle more help. Thanks for posting that picture.
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#388040 - 09/07/01 02:51 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
#388150 - 09/07/01 05:27 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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alright mine is probably overcooked also... i filled the jar with water to a point a little above the rye, and pressure cooked about an hour... i was supposed to only PC for 45 mins, but i got my cooker from a thrift store and there's no pressure gauge so i figured i'd add a little time to make sure i didn't undercook it. well i scraped the stuff off the sides, i'm going to wait a few days and see what happens.
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
#388187 - 09/07/01 06:25 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nushroom.. my grain is barely cooked. Not popped open at all. My first round I did that.
My second not enough. As a matter of fact the 7 cups uncooked made 8 1/2 half
au dente, shall we say. When I started measuring it out.. I realized ah nooo and put it
back it to cook a bit more.Still didn't get close to the 14cups per 'grains for retards tek"
Una's pic the grains are bigger, browner, crispier looking.
My shit looks like long grain rice uncooked. I'll try again and PUTZ around- the ol trial
and error. ( damn I hope these are rye berries, it said on the bin, looks wider and longer than brown
rice, now wouldn't that be a real newbie joke if it was some kinda rice) BTW, nothing has germinated yet, day 5. I'll get it.. eventually. Thanks for popping in here Nushrom.. and thanks amoeba for
giving me some space.
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#388196 - 09/07/01 06:33 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
#388213 - 09/07/01 06:50 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got this at a healthfood store..
Ok.. wad I got.. ryeberries ...Yes??
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: patzee]
#388215 - 09/07/01 06:51 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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my pic didn't get sent..said it uploaded successfully .. but it's not here.
any ideas? NuShroom..wanted you to tell me if these are ryeberries or not.
Edited by patzee on 09/07/01 08:00 PM.
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: patzee]
#388226 - 09/07/01 07:14 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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well, I tried mark up, html and both..
says pic uploaded successfully.. where it says..use this in your post:
there's nothing after it. I see the pic but that's all.
I'm fried. I'll do a search for ryeberries and get a pic to confirm what I have.
good night. thanks anyway.
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: Amoeba665]
#388249 - 09/07/01 07:48 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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My Rye looks just like Una's pic....Used 1 cup Rye and 1 cup water pc for 50 min......used one quart jar and almost blew the filters off! Will use less rye or a bigger jar ..next time..DUH.....trial and error!
Edited by Papa_Bear on 09/07/01 08:50 PM.
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 Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
#388576 - 09/08/01 09:00 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is rye.. and it's colonizing this morning.(eqs and gulf coast)
Doesn't look like Una's pic..but
apparently the mycelium like it just hope the moisture holds up.
.. btw.. my QUINOA,FINCH,BRF,VERMIC COMBO
is yummy stuff. They are going for it-voraciously.
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: patzee]
#388650 - 09/08/01 11:30 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm.. so it sounds like its ok to undercook and add less water than add too much water. well ill keep waiting on mine but i dont have very high expectations...
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: Amoeba665]
#389534 - 09/09/01 04:00 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amoeba..been away. just came back to this post.
I undercooked mine.But- after I inoculated.. I went back
and added about 10ccs of sterile water to the quart jar. It was risky
opening up the jar again.. but I had hepa running, filter disks too.
They are colonizing. I am surprized.
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: patzee]
#389598 - 09/09/01 05:33 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here`s a trick i read about.... sterilize for 7 minutes at 15 pounds let PC cool shake well.. then back in the PC for 45 minutes have`nt tried yet but I bet it distibutes the water better in the grain and seems like shaking it soon like that and then sterilizing for the longer period would help with clumping I`m sure gonna try next time because I`ve had the same problem with a jar full of mush trying to shake that shit lol..let me know how it worked for you If i don`t beat you to it
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Re: what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like [Re: Numba9]
#389625 - 09/09/01 06:03 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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one of my problems that I've had right along, even before the grain
is I use a med grade sterilizer.. at 250 degrees, the pressure is about 120psi.
So doing jars for 30min.. still letting pressure come down on its own, nothing sudden,
it zaps the moisture. My cakes all colonize.. but at birth they are real thirsty.
Now I inject water /not dunk, to remedy that. Now I gotta get the grain thing down.
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