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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3888799 - 03/08/05 08:02 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Great stuff pris!

It looks like the planting guidelines that my dad ( rest in peace)gave me agree with your advice!
I love it man!


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3888820 - 03/08/05 08:07 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you for the advice :smile:


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Ripple]
    #3889160 - 03/08/05 08:52 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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It looks like the planting guidelines that my dad ( rest in peace)gave me agree with your advice!






sounds like your dad listened to his plants... I bet he never really needed pesticides and could be frugal wth the fertilizers


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3904709 - 03/11/05 10:09 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

And he was able to find those dam green caterpillars on his tomatoes as easy as anything, I have never seen anything but there shit and eaten leaves.


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Ripple]
    #3906247 - 03/12/05 11:10 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Bump... check the first post for pics, remember that most of the flowering varieties will come in different shades and varietis but most will have the same effects...


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read *pics* [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3907752 - 03/12/05 04:39 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

wow, awesome post! i never knew it was "formic acid" that causes all the iritation in stinging nettles. i remember getting a few chemical burns from this plant when i lived in ohio. i always just thought it was little hairs stuck in my leg or something. that's really cool.  :thumbup: thanks man!

nettle awesomeness:
"stinging nettles, are covered with tiny stinging hairs called trichomes.  Each trichome is like a glass hypodermic needle, complete with a little bulb of skin irritants (formic acid, acetylcholine, serotonin, and histamines) at the base of the needle.  When skin brushes the leaf surface, the silica-stiffened trichomes break and inject their chemicals into the skin, and red welts instantly appear."


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3907910 - 03/12/05 05:21 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Excellently done.


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: World Spirit]
    #3911113 - 03/13/05 01:16 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I'm still working on the rest, between OTD drama and the home front... I've been a little busy


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4099725 - 04/26/05 06:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

About how far away should corn and tomatoes be planted? Is just one plant row apart enough? If I planted my mint outside, could I transplant it back into a container in fall to keep it alive?


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: YidakiMan]
    #4101894 - 04/27/05 08:48 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I like to give at least 3 rows between corn and tomatos, the mint should survive the winter, at least it does here in the south, I had a neighbor that had a lawn
full of mint.


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4102042 - 04/27/05 10:46 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

hey prisoner, great post, five :mushroom2: for ya man!


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4102504 - 04/27/05 01:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm still working on the rest, b





Cool cool, thanks for the tips. You gonna add anymore?


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: YidakiMan]
    #4105543 - 04/28/05 02:10 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, as soon as I can find a little extra time, shouldnt be too long before the rest is posted


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: YidakiMan]
    #4109243 - 04/29/05 01:06 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

south west bc mint has grown 12 months of the year (for me).  no idea what type it was random lawn variety.  we had a mild winter, 1 small snow i think) adn tehre were a couple patches that stayed somwhat gree throughout the year.  ironically they died in spring.

i never knew stinging nettles had formic acid in them.  be very interesting if they can do studies with ant eating lizards (horned lizards aka horny toads, north america).  they aperantly requir formic acid in their diets (reason for ants being staple) thus leading to limited captive care.  peopel say tehy have reared tehm on non acid meals so who knows.  anyway, im stearing way off topic sorry.  VERY interesting to me though!

k im done.  thanks for the info folks :grin:


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4115760 - 04/30/05 08:09 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps you've read my thread in the pub. I've lost my garden. Tis unfortunate. But I am going to try container gardening instead. Anyway, I'm going through what I have, and I am still trying to cut down on the number of containers by planting them together. I can't grow any corn, so I am wondering what I should plant with my beans and zukes. Also I couldn't figure any companions for cilantro, spinich, Bay, peppers and stevia.

I've have found companions for lattuce, basil, Alliums spp., tomato, cukes, chamomile, cabbage and carrots.


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: YidakiMan]
    #4133885 - 05/04/05 07:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Perhaps you've read my thread in the pub.  I've lost my garden.  Tis unfortunate.  But I am going to try container gardening instead.




I tried to find it but I couldnt, sorry to hear about it, I jsut lost a couple hundred tomatos but every thing else is doing fine, containers can make it
easier with some o fthese things.


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Anyway, I'm going through what I have, and I am still trying to cut down on the number of containers by planting them together.  I can't grow any corn, so I am wondering what I should plant with my beans and zukes. 




I'd toss a sunflower or 2 in, provide a bush type bean for the zules to get
it some added nitrogen and simply allow it's fruits to hang over the side

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also I couldn't figure any companions for cilantro, spinich, Bay, peppers and stevia. 




silantro can reduce Colorado potato beetles when planted with eggplants and tomatoes,  reduces aphids, spider mites and carrot rust fly.  it's also an insect atractant so planting it with anything that flowers is a good idea

with Bay, I couldnt tell you other than it does deter insects, I've used it ground and in teas for foliage but thats always always as a dried herb, the
live plant may have similar effects.

the peppers can do well with anything that may have a problem with damping off
and stevia is something I've yet to play with, so save me some seeds :wink:


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4147332 - 05/07/05 05:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hey thanks, I didn't see your response before the thread got buried.
Ya, so it turns out, that the plot of dirt against the neighbors fence in the backyard is not part of my rental, its the neighbors property. So I am going to get a 1000W HPS and perhaps a 400 or 600W and put the 1000W on a light rail. That'll all go on my porch/sunroom. I haven't decided whether to contain the light or not, but it's probably a good idea to keep too much light from spilling onto the street.

I had a couple ideas for this container garden, I think the final space is going to be about 10'x5' here goes:

In 50 gal Sterlite containers, plant a double row of midget corn with some beans or peas and zukes. If there is extra room, I may use herbs, onions, etc as fillers. This corn could possibly be a midget black corn(3'-4') or baby corn(4'-6').

In 15 gal containers, cukes or zukes on an A frame trellis, with beans or peas. Put lettuce, cabbage, chard, arugula, carrots radishes or onions underneath the trellis. I also figured on doing melons in the same fashion.

Again in 15 gal containers; tomatos, carrots, onion and pepper. I'll put a tomato on three sides of a square container and climb it up and out on a trellis.
Somewhere, I am going to grow sweet potatos in a growing "tire garden", in which you allow the plant to vine out and gradually add more tires and soil to the top of the "container". End result is more potatos.

I've got some good heirloom tomato colors; yellow pear, orange and purple slicers; also rainbow chard. Also have purple podded beans and purple basil.
I want to get more colors this fall from Burpee. I want the black, chocolate, purple, white, yellow and orange bell pepper mix. Purple dragon and yellow carrots. Also I want All Red and All Blue potatos! Those are awesome. They also have Italian Rose beans, a red podded, red-marbled bean, that I'd like to grow overwinter, since it is now a possibility. I love these awesome heirloom colors.

I have a few more questions for you. What tomatos are YOU going? Anything else cool? Any problems with my plans, too little light?? Do you know anything about garden plots for rent? I live in a farming area, but I can't seem to find any info on plots for rent. Feed store a good place to ask, probably?

Oh yea, if the stevia goes to seed, I'll make sure I save some.


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: YidakiMan]
    #4147350 - 05/07/05 05:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

My biggest concern right now is the corn. That I will have to put the light too high to effectively feed the other plants.


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: YidakiMan]
    #4152317 - 05/09/05 03:44 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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I have a few more questions for you. What tomatos are YOU going?




I had about 100 beefsteak tomato plants that have died along with all my pepper
plants, I have no clue as to why, rainfall and temps have been good and the soil
is pretty rich since it's been grazed for the last 15 years, Anno had sent me
several varieties and I just put out some rutgers a few weeks ago.

as for the cool ones, I'm running a small plot of artichokes and some plum
grannys, it's a small mellon with the most incredible smell, a couple in
your living room will give a scent to most of your house, they are also know as
the queen annes pocket mellon.

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Any problems with my plans, too little light?? Do you know anything about garden plots for rent? I live in a farming area, but I can't seem to find any info on plots for rent. Feed store a good place to ask, probably?




I can see light being a problem if you're dealing with trellis' and corn, you
may want to reconsider your options and use fluros, I'm seeing 4' fixtures for
$6-$10, theres little heat and you can use them creatively to get the light
where it needs to be, adding a few HID ligghts near the flowering cycle can
benefit the production

for leasing a garden plot, most farmers are willing to give up a little space,
dont be afraid to talk with one in your area about it or even with your neighbor
just offer them a little of the food and most are pretty happy that they didnt
have to work for it


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Re: Planting Guide, long but well worth the read/ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4167212 - 05/12/05 06:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

My garden is doing pretty good.
I got 6 Cayenne pepper plants, 2 sage plants, and one lavender plant into the ground today that I picked up at Lowe's for $10.

Also, I've dug up and potted 3 echinecha plants that came up from the seeds of last years flowers, as well as potting 2 rosemary cuttings that seem to be taking hold(thanks to what little root was left on them.

Also, I bought 2 blueberry bushes this year that seem to be trying to hold in there.
As well as about 2 dozen extremely healthy strawberry plants that have TONS of fruit! Can't wait till they ripen, and what I REALLY look foreword to is the tomatoes!


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