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Silversoul
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Re: Fox News [Re: Rose]
#3918593 - 03/14/05 10:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sometimes issues can be too confusing by themselves, so it helps to go to sources with different biases to understand the different perspectives on it. So I wouldn't necessarily say news should always be unbiased. I'm fine with biased news, as long as there's a variety of biases to choose from.
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Rose
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I agree with you. That's why I watch Fox.
However, there was a time when such practices were SERIOUSLY frowned upon... that time was before FNC came to be
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JesusChrist
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Re: Fox News [Re: Rose]
#3918841 - 03/14/05 11:22 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you don't think that Brit Hume should be able to voice his opinion and keep his job more power to ya. Dan Rather lost his job because of foged documents, not because he went to Democratic fundraisers. And that really was a legitmate scandal. I think the source should have had criminal charges against him for doing that, and if Rather and CBS had any stones they would have wanted that too.
I think that it is more usefull to have bias out in the open and not hidden within the news.
I am a news junkie. Sometimes I read the NYTimes, and I regularly listen to NPR. I don't watch OReilly ever since his head became so bloated and he made the issue his own ego.
Brit Hume is a conservative. He doesn't hide it. He is also a top flight newsman and the best of the bunch at Fox. Tim Russert of Meet the Press is a liberal. He is also a top flight guy and an honest broker. You don't hear a lot of people complaining about his bias, because he does his job and works hard.
First and foremost, I want my newsmen to be honest and reasonable. Brit Hume is fair and ballanced, and so is Tim Russert.
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Rose
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JesusChrist said: Dan Rather lost his job because of foged documents...
Actually, he retired.
I have no problems with Hume, but rather woth Fox, for allowing him to be an anchor and editorialist.
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JesusChrist
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Re: Fox News [Re: Rose]
#3918917 - 03/14/05 11:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lets assume an alternate universe where Brit Hume is not allowed to spend 5 minutes on Sunday to promote Chris Wallaces show and help things out.
Wouldn't he still be a conservative and a conservative journalist? Does this in any way impact his show or his newscasts? He is an intelligent guy. We have plenty of quacks on the left and the right that like to go to the extreme.
You keep your grubby liberal paws off my newsman fella.
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Rose
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Well, he'd still have his written body of work. He is Conservative, but I agree, Brit is a class act.
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Re: Fox News [Re: Rose]
#3919147 - 03/15/05 12:42 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fox news does not usually cover stories that I really am interested in. However, I do watch it for a different viewpoint sometimes, even if I disagree. Check out the movie OutFoxed sometime, if yall haven't already.
I really enjoy listening to NPR "All Things Considered". They bring stories I care about, the discussion is intriguing. There is only brief 5 second plugs for sponsors....no commercials!!!
I think it is necessary to understand that there can be many sides to a story especially something like Iraq, I think NPR covers these major perspectives well, from the Iraqis to the American soldiers to the politicians and everything in between.
I don't really like the whole system of left verses right. To me it just goes along with the two party system Democrat vs. Republican. What is a true right wing or conservative viewpoint? What is a true left wing/liberal view? I feel differently about many different issues.
It's all subjective, the stories picked, the perspectives and worldviews that we each have. I feel we each create our own reality. We choose what to believe what to trust.
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Re: American journalists, Dan Rather said, simply may not ask tough questions [Re: Catalysis]
#3919812 - 03/15/05 05:20 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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The burden of proof is not on the accused, it is on the accuser. That is one of the most important things to remember in your future debates and arguments.
Tell that to the US Administration - any proof to back up their accusations? Not needed - just a good story will do.
WMD - what a great yarn! That'll get us Eyeraq - no proof needed
How about all those people in Guantanemo bay - not even a charge after what? 4 years imprisonment for many of them. Not even a charge let alone proof!
Yes proof is so important.
btw I think Rather was an idiot to include embellished facts (just as the Bush regime and most governments are in their own daily practices), ruins his own reputation where he was so close to just getting the facts out - fool . However I think it is an interesting story and on topic, that's why I posted it. If you are upset with Rather - email him, or just state your retort; don't get on your debating high horse with me.
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