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Offlinehpnotiq
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Kratom!
    #3872444 - 03/05/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Any of you experienced users recommend any way of using kratom? Im getting about 25g from a nice guy here on shroomery.... what dose would be good and how do you usually feel while using it?


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Re: Kratom! [Re: hpnotiq]
    #3872548 - 03/05/05 12:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Tea is probably the best, although it is vile and bitter. I think an average dose is somewhere around 4-7 grams of leaf, and the effects are very nice. In lower doses you are speeded up, and in higher doses it is very opiate like. But be careful, because, also like opiates, comes nausea if you take too much.

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Re: Kratom! [Re: hpnotiq]
    #3872577 - 03/05/05 12:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah tea is great, don't take too much the first time unless you know you have a big tolerance. I'd say about 5 grams.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: hpnotiq]
    #3872879 - 03/05/05 02:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, tea. take 4-6 grams and call me in the morning.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: Locus]
    #3872954 - 03/05/05 03:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

would you guys recommend taking kratom before physical activity, I read on errowid that ancient chinese warriors used it like snuff before battles, I paintball and I was gonna try that before I play this weekend.

Has anyone tried anything like this before??


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Re: Kratom! [Re: infamous]
    #3874991 - 03/05/05 11:32 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Never tried opiates.... What should I expect?


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Re: Kratom! [Re: hpnotiq]
    #3875156 - 03/06/05 12:27 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I drank a liter of kratom tea with no effects. I'm not convinced it works, but good luck.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: zorbman]
    #3875196 - 03/06/05 12:36 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

How much leaf did you use to make the tea? There had been fake kratom going around a while ago, I don't know wether or not it still is. But I can assure you, it works.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: gdman]
    #3875210 - 03/06/05 12:40 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yes, it works....what's this about snuffs, sounds interesting :p ....what are the dosages for that?


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Re: Kratom! [Re: Toricious]
    #3875218 - 03/06/05 12:41 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

This is the first I've heard it being used this way. If they snuff straight leaf, well, that's a lot of material to toot. Drip would probably be absolutely terrible too.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: gdman]
    #3875227 - 03/06/05 12:45 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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gdman said:
This is the first I've heard it being used this way. If they snuff straight leaf, well, that's a lot of material to toot. Drip would probably be absolutely terrible too.




dunno, talking about it as a stimulant i'm guessing they go for low dose effects...


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Re: Kratom! [Re: Toricious]
    #3875246 - 03/06/05 12:51 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I figured they wouldn't want their wearriors nodding off during the battle :smirk:, I have never heard of it being used this way. Maybe I will expirment a little later.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: gdman]
    #3875262 - 03/06/05 12:55 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

well if my kratom doesnt work, ill consider it fake


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Re: Kratom! [Re: gdman]
    #3875268 - 03/06/05 12:57 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

gdman said:
I figured they wouldn't want their wearriors nodding off during the battle :smirk:, I have never heard of it being used this way. Maybe I will expirment a little later.




experimented with a little, I think it works, but I am still kind of high so it could just be nothing...


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Re: Kratom! [Re: hpnotiq]
    #3877032 - 03/06/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It definately works. I've had most success w/ a cheap espresso maker, extracting the same leaves a few times until the liquid isn't cloudy and bitter.
I don't like the higher dose effects. I prefer around 3.5 grams.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: phi1618]
    #3878536 - 03/06/05 06:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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It definately works. I've had most success w/ a cheap espresso maker, extracting the same leaves a few times until the liquid isn't cloudy and bitter.
I don't like the higher dose effects. I prefer around 3.5 grams.




yeah, I know it works, just wondered if it worked nasally....I got a headache, a bit of nausea and some jitters from it.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: Toricious]
    #3878576 - 03/06/05 06:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was talking to hpnotiq.


I don't really know. I suspect it works nasally, but who wants to snort a couple grams of foul tasting plant matter?

Let us know the results of any experiment.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: phi1618]
    #3879542 - 03/06/05 10:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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phi1618 said:
I was talking to hpnotiq.


I don't really know. I suspect it works nasally, but who wants to snort a couple grams of foul tasting plant matter?

Let us know the results of any experiment.




Quote:

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I got a headache, a bit of nausea and some jitters from it.




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Re: Kratom! [Re: hpnotiq]
    #3881292 - 03/07/05 04:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I always throw 1 to 2 table spoons (Which is to much) into hot water and drink/eat the material...not the smoothest drink and ...errr...food...in the world.


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Re: Kratom! [Re: infamous]
    #3881579 - 03/07/05 06:48 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i would definitely not snort it. dont do that. make a tea, and then go play paintball, or maybe you did this already now.. but anyway, that would work well. it definitely is good for getting shit done and fun activity or whatever. whenever i play guitar i usually use it too. probably better at lower doses.. one, for use as more of a stimulant rather than a sedative. two, so you dont get nausea. but not low enough so you dont feel it, just enough so it's a good dose, but not too much. you just gotta experiment a bit and find the right doses for if you're going to go out and do stuff or just lay in bed and chill or whatever ya know.  :thumbup:


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