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OfflineZekebomb
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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: lackobreath]
    #3875468 - 03/06/05 02:18 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

anyone know if there's a Hammerhead-type program for Mac?


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: lackobreath]
    #3875632 - 03/06/05 03:10 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Sweet thanks. So question for anybody wanting to answer. How exactly is it that artist do there beats? a drum machine? Custom loops? if its somehow done with loops whats a good program for doing custom ones?


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Osker246]
    #3875765 - 03/06/05 03:54 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I always make my own beats but I don't know about what most people do.

in fruityloops or reason and probably many other programs you can make your own beats


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OfflineBrAiN
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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Osker246]
    #3877125 - 03/06/05 02:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Either they rip em off of a song....

Or they make their own. You have to abandon the typical musical notation for a while and thing in terms of STEPS for a while. Think of a techno song as having 16 steps

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Each 4th beat, throw in a Bass drum

B _ _ _ B _ _ _ B _ _ _ B _ _ _

Now you have the techo sound "boom .. boom... boom... boom"

Throw in an "Open high hat" noise in between the bass drums, every 4th step.

B _ H _ B _ H _ B _ H _ B _ H _

Now you've got that "mmm tsh mmm tsh mmm tsh mmm tsh" noise that pretty much defines techno. Mix that in with a little 303 action and you've got a techno track.

That's why I recommend using rebirth or a very simple drug looping software like fruity or hammerhead to get started and learn the fundamentals like this.


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3877127 - 03/06/05 02:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Zekebomb said:
flux, are you a member of homerecording.com/bbs?
the forum is quiet compared to the shroomery, but still pretty handy. and of course all the other info on the site is great for getting started




Yes I am a member. You might want to read more to answer you newbie questions. I would be willing to answer all your questions if you gave me some compensation, since my time is limited.
HomeRecordingBBS as far as general forums go, it's great. At least for an intermediate or expert level, many of the questions on mixing are answered by professional studio owners.


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Offlinebutterflydawn
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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Osker246]
    #3877502 - 03/06/05 04:01 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Osker246 said:
This is the synthesizer I have my eyes on right now.

Clavia Nord Lead 3





same here,
i was so close to buy cnl3
but i've choose boom festival
and spend the whole i saved.

:tongue2:


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OfflineBrAiN
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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: butterflydawn]
    #3877593 - 03/06/05 04:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

For beginners... I'd suggest blowing 100 bucks on a simple OXYGEN keyboard. It's a simple midi keyboard that has everything you need. All sorts of programmable knobs and such. In fact, I think it was designed for the sole purpose of just being a studio keyboard for use with reason or other sequencers.

When I was 18 I blew 700 bucks on a Roland XP 10. It was fun... but a year later I ended up selling it for 300 bucks.


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: BrAiN]
    #3877679 - 03/06/05 04:28 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

BrAiN said:
Either they rip em off of a song....

Or they make their own. You have to abandon the typical musical notation for a while and thing in terms of STEPS for a while. Think of a techno song as having 16 steps

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Each 4th beat, throw in a Bass drum

B _ _ _ B _ _ _ B _ _ _ B _ _ _

Now you have the techo sound "boom .. boom... boom... boom"

Throw in an "Open high hat" noise in between the bass drums, every 4th step.

B _ H _ B _ H _ B _ H _ B _ H _

Now you've got that "mmm tsh mmm tsh mmm tsh mmm tsh" noise that pretty much defines techno. Mix that in with a little 303 action and you've got a techno track.

That's why I recommend using rebirth or a very simple drug looping software like fruity or hammerhead to get started and learn the fundamentals like this.




This type of genre categorization is what leads to repetitive, tastless, unoriginal and bland music that keeps getting cranked out by anyone with two turntables or some for of a DAW.


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #3877745 - 03/06/05 04:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

hear hear!


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InvisibleMiddlemanM

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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3877950 - 03/06/05 05:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

psilocyberin said:
I can do just as much with ACID pro and sonic foundry as you could do with DP.




no you cannot.

you don't have half the options in Acid that you have w/ DP's audio editing.
the quality of the plug-ins, DSP, and conversion algorithms in DP4 FAR surpasses Acid.

Quote:

Fluxburn said:
Honestly Absynth sounds just as good as a Nord Lead 3, I have both. The soft synths sound just as good as a hardware synth now.




no WAY dude! what kind of monitors are you using?


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Viveka]
    #3877956 - 03/06/05 05:17 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I am working on electronica music that isnt in 4/4 right now. I made a 3/4 but it isnt what i am going for. Right now I am trying to use the style of King Crimson to make electronica, which is playing a 5/4 melody with a 4/4 beat or vice versa, which never lets the beat come to a full rest really and always perpetuates this locomotive anxiety. im sure no one will like it, because you cant bounce up and down to it with a pacifier in your mouth.


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #3878169 - 03/06/05 05:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

well the probelm is ALL POPULAR MUSIC USES 4/4

POP, ROCK, TECHNO, TRANCE, COUNTRY

soo haha good lucky with that


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3878200 - 03/06/05 05:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #3878212 - 03/06/05 05:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

HAHAH

GENELEC 1031A's

HAHHAHA

Yes they are pretty much the same dood, get over it


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3878250 - 03/06/05 05:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

So, is everyone going to get Moderator now?


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #3878339 - 03/06/05 06:04 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

what do you mean psilocyber-in? there have always been four in here.

Quote:

Fluxburn said:
well the probelm is ALL POPULAR MUSIC USES 4/4

POP, ROCK, TECHNO, TRANCE, COUNTRY

soo haha good lucky with that




this statement shows that nothing Fluxburn says should be taken too seriously.

i can name all kinds of songs in 5/4, 7/3, 3/4...
hey Flux ever hear of TRIP-HOP, PROG ROCK, and JAZZ???


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3878349 - 03/06/05 06:05 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The new synths are not all marketing. The sounds on my Triton are amazing. They are actual samples.I used to rock it old school with an ESQ-1 and a Kawaii K-1, which have their qualities, but I wouldn't trade my triton for anything.

I have little experience though in the lines of electronic music. I use a few sequencing programs, but between the trriton and my 16-track, that keeps me busy.


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #3878395 - 03/06/05 06:14 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Yes the new synths are all marketing. You can buy sample cd's that have the same pro samples and load them into a SOFT SAMPLER.

All your trinton does is playback samples and apply effects, ADSR, etc. A software sampler does the exact same thing as a hardware synthesizer.

Seriously don't waste your money on those $2,500 synths. They drop in value to $1,000 in a year.

Like the nord lead 3 I bought used for $1,100 after a half year it came out for $2,600


And give me a break dood, almost 99% of popular music, i.e. Trip hop is not commerical and neither is jazz haha.


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Edited by Fluxburn (03/06/05 06:15 PM)


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #3878415 - 03/06/05 06:17 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

TheShroomHermit said:

I've tried unsuccesfully to get programs that would let me do this... do you have any suggestions?




DC++

also check out:

VST Instrument Listing

I Breathe Music

Future Producers

OSX Audio

Mac Music


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Re: How do I make electronic music? [Re: Middleman]
    #3878473 - 03/06/05 06:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

sorry jinx, maybe it is the new title graphic that is bringing to my attention all the people who are MOD's.


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