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syrian rue ?
    #3866239 - 03/04/05 02:04 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)

I was just wondering how finely the rue needed to be ground up if one was going to injest it for the MOAI effects on a shroom trip? I've been pounding on em for a while, and while they are pretty finely broken up, it definitely is not a powder. Also when you actually injest them, is it better to injest prior to eating the shrooms or should it be injested the same time as the shrooms?


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Re: syrian rue ? [Re: disturbed]
    #3866677 - 03/04/05 05:16 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)



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Re: syrian rue ? [Re: liveby]
    #3867057 - 03/04/05 09:06 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)

grind them up as much as you can, the more fine the rue is the easier it will be for your body to break it down. i usually ijest the rue about 20=30 mins before i eat the mushrooms.


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Re: syrian rue ? [Re: Damn]
    #3867557 - 03/04/05 11:52 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)

I would do an extraction on the seeds rather than eat them as they are.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_extraction2.shtml

Even just a simple water extraction would be preferable to eating the seeds, which contain some other nasty stuff besides harmala alkaloids. I personally had a rather nasty experience consuming 5grams of ground rue in capsules. I paced it out over an hour or two, planning on consuming some shrooms once I felt the rue effects. Basically, I got too sick from the rue alone, and spent most of the night feeling like shit.

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Re: syrian rue ? [Re: phalloidin]
    #3870448 - 03/04/05 09:46 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

damn those seeds are strong that is for sure.

grind them up, put a little water and down it.... tastes oh so nasty... but if you're a man you can do it.


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Re: syrian rue -- caution [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3872139 - 03/05/05 06:59 AM (19 years, 28 days ago)

lotta "undesirable" chemicals when you ingest the seed material...
a "tea" (simmered with a little acidulant - vit C, lemon juice, vinegar, 2 or 3 drops of muriatic acid, whatever) & filtered (& the marc thrown away, or simmered for a second rinse) will eliminate a lot of the nastier chems...

and an extraction (search: manske/hasenfratz or vinegar/salt rue method) yielding pretty crystals is so easy...


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