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OfflineRonoS
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Ah...the irony...
    #3863932 - 03/03/05 07:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It's not exactly a big secret that I despise big oil companies and all that they stand for...but today I was just offered a very lucrative contract with "Shell"...Probably one of the worst offenders IMO.

Now I have a big decision to make...stand by my ideals and eat Ramen noodles for a while, or take their offer and swallow my pride.

Damn...stupid morals... :confused:


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3863948 - 03/03/05 07:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Keep to your beliefs. Money is important to the degree that it suits your lifestyle. Dunno, nobody will call you on it either way. But, you'll think of yourself as a sellout if you feel that seriously about it.


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3863960 - 03/03/05 07:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

What type of a position? For me, this may have some bearing on what I would do. For instance, being a company doctor, nurse or firefighter would be alright (they have all of these at the oil refineries).


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #3863988 - 03/03/05 07:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

good point. Well, if anything iirc "shell" is good to the degree that they promote environmental cleaning (the commercials)... dunno how much of that is just agitprop to cover their asses though.


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"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #3863990 - 03/03/05 07:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It will be an IT position...maybe I can crash their servers and bring the company to it's knees...thereby making myself some good money and standing up for what I believe at the same time.  :wink:


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3863993 - 03/03/05 07:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:lol:


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3864119 - 03/03/05 08:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Got kids??????
Seriously, take or decline for any reason you want but don't commit fraud


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3864152 - 03/03/05 08:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No Kids Here...(That I'll admit to)

In what way would I be committing fraud? Industrial Sabotage maybe...but not fraud.

(For the record...I wouldn't actully bring their servers down, despite how much I would like to. I realize that there are others that work there just to put food on the table, and they would be the only ones getting hurt...not the assholes running it.)


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3864192 - 03/03/05 08:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Taking a job and their money and agreeing to work in their interests and then sabotaging said interests constitutes fraud in it's utterly essential and legal meaning. Your question was a joke right? RIGHT?


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3864255 - 03/03/05 08:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ummmm yeah...a joke...that's it.  :tongue:


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3864576 - 03/03/05 09:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Dont you drive an SUV?



I say go for it. Why would you ever not go for a better job that pays more?


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #3864642 - 03/03/05 09:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Dont you drive an SUV?




yes..I do. But since I live in the Mountains, and winter is 9 months of the year, my SUV is more of a necessity than some soccer mom that buys one as a status symbol.

Quote:

I say go for it. Why would you ever not go for a better job that pays more?



Personal moral Dilemma...


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3864651 - 03/03/05 09:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I say take the job and find a way to speed up oil production! We need to hurry up and use this shit up :wink:


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: trendal]
    #3864680 - 03/03/05 09:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think society is taking care of that on it's own...;)


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3864755 - 03/03/05 10:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)


Now I have a big decision to make...stand by my ideals and eat Ramen noodles for a while, or take their offer and swallow my pride.

There is no greater thrill in this world than selling out.  It is a blast.  It's time to grow up, hippy.  :smirk:


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3864771 - 03/03/05 10:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No, their is no worse issue then selling out... Denote the characterization however you want, but if you aren't true to yourself, then you aren't true to others...

Everyone always says to sell out, and to change because everyone else is doing it...... Conformity "peer pressure" if you'll go so far to call it such.


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3864787 - 03/03/05 10:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)


No Kids Here...(That I'll admit to)

Would your ex-wife get any of your money if you took the job?


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3864934 - 03/03/05 10:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe you could work from the inside to help their alternative energy division? Or at least watch out for any illegal business practices and be damn sure to take advantage of whistleblower rights.

I don't think anyone else can really help you with this one, it just comes down to your ethical standards.


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3864951 - 03/03/05 10:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

We are all whores, and You would be lucky to be Pimped by Shell.


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Re: Ah...the irony... [Re: Rono]
    #3865031 - 03/03/05 10:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Just fucking get another job. Jesus, if your worth a shit, surely they aren't the only people you can hose into giving you a decent job. Don't take it. You'll be miserable in your consummate weenieness. Just say no


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