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OfflineGinseng1
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Salvias harshness
    #3854353 - 03/01/05 08:48 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, so I wanted to know if salvia can make you cough if you take a good bong hit of the stuff.

Doesn't look like this has been asked before but, I know that the first bong hit I take of MJ will usually make me cough hard, and when I start coughing I remember how much I hate the feeling and how much I wish the coughing discomfort could be over.  I always feel like I have to lie down or something because if I don't I'll puke or something.  It is usually done in about 30 seconds or so.
I have never actually puked form this but I simply hate the feeling, so can salvia make me cough the same way, because I'm thinking that if it does, it could ruin the trip and I could have an aweful time because of the coughing.

Lately I've been hearing and reading alot about salvia and I will seriously consider trying it.  However, the more I read, the less expectations I have of it.

If I do it i know to do it in a comfortable setting and somewhere I can sit and lie down if I like, but I'm afraid of the idea that hard coughing and not being able to breathe could automaticaly put me in a bad place.

Experiences? Comments?  Both are greately appreciated.

Thanks in advance, and yea I did a quick search  :laugh: :tongue: :thumbup:


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Invisibledr_gonz
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    #3854374 - 03/01/05 08:53 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: dr_gonz]
    #3854511 - 03/01/05 09:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Coughing will be the least of your problems if you get a decent hit. ..perhaps you'll think "i'm coughing on my couch..wait..i'm on my bed..wait..i'm..i remember the last time i..Boom"

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Offlinelackobreath
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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: rdnp2035]
    #3854567 - 03/01/05 09:41 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't really cough on salvia... actually i couldn't hold the smoke in cause of a laughing fit... any way, i put ice down my bong, then put my water down it, so it got filtered through the water and the ice.

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: lackobreath]
    #3854599 - 03/01/05 09:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i dont smoke anything, but everytime ive ripped salvia i always take the biggest hit possible, hold it and manage not to choke.
as for coughing on the first hit of weed, you ever try taking a smaller hit and then building up?

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Skinnymofo]
    #3855067 - 03/01/05 11:42 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I coughed on my first couple of salvia hits...it can be harsh.

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Ginseng1]
    #3855146 - 03/02/05 12:00 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

What kind of expectations are you having less of?

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: SourceLimit]
    #3856001 - 03/02/05 06:39 AM (19 years, 30 days ago)

if you get a standardized 10x prepraration and smoke just 1/40th of a gram, you will probably not cough and will probably have a full effect.

the standardized preps remove tarry content and so the smoke is lighter, softer.

with 10x you can use a regular lighter and a small glass pipe (with screen) and it will be fine and not too hot either.

with long stemmed pipes you can use a torch and you will need more salvia since good stuff will condense on the tubes.


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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Ginseng1]
    #3857508 - 03/02/05 01:54 PM (19 years, 30 days ago)

It can make you cough... I find it is [initially] not too bad... I mean it is uncomfortable on the lungs and will make you cough a bit... my suggestion is... when you take it in, don't use your MAX lung capacity. I'll try to explain that...
let's say your usual full breath would fill up your lungs 100%... wellyou can FORCE past that to 120%, and I'm saying, don't go to 120%.
Also I find that the effects of the salvia make the lungs and such hurt more, so in reality you're not ddoing too bad but the effects of the salvia are amplifying that irritation.

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: fotia]
    #3858846 - 03/02/05 06:00 PM (19 years, 30 days ago)

salvia is kinda harsh

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Blashpherion05]
    #3858855 - 03/02/05 06:02 PM (19 years, 30 days ago)

When you feel like you have to cough, just exhale fast and force yourself to inhale another hit. That's what I do.

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: SourceLimit]
    #3859590 - 03/02/05 08:19 PM (19 years, 30 days ago)

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SourceLimit said:
What kind of expectations are you having less of?




I'm having less expectations of what could I could experience.

I fully understand that if I do it, I won't be prepared for what's to come, and trying to expect things from it will not help atall.

If I do try this so called Salvia, I am going to try to go in with no expectations. Only that when I come out of it ill be like... whoa...


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OfflineTheProdigy
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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Ginseng1]
    #3860187 - 03/02/05 10:10 PM (19 years, 30 days ago)

I've actually never coughed on salvia, and I cough frequently on marijuana. If you want to avoid coughing... use a water pipe, and inhale slowly. Hold for 20 secs. Exhale. Repeat.

don't lower your expectations of salvia, because it *will* kick your ass.


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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3860845 - 03/03/05 12:50 AM (19 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

if you get a standardized 10x prepraration and smoke just 1/40th of a gram, you will probably not cough and will probably have a full effect.




:thumbup: Yeah,  that stuff is pretty easy on the lungs.  Never seen anyone choke.  I could see non-standard being harsh.


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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Ginseng1]
    #3861373 - 03/03/05 06:47 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)

fuck, salvia makes me feel like my throat is completely closing up. So like, that happens as the trip starts hitting me and it is an entirely uncomforable experience.

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Basin]
    #3861394 - 03/03/05 07:11 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)

basin,,, that reminds me of my experiences kinda like my throat was closing up except it felt more like I was going to swollow me tougue

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #3861671 - 03/03/05 09:23 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)

i've had three damn grams of saliva before and didn't trip... bought a 5 and a 10x and didn't feel anything... too bad

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Ginseng1]
    #3862310 - 03/03/05 12:21 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

Use a water bong and a Salvia extract. Start with a low dose and test it. It is harsh on my throat, but I can't think about that for longer than 30sec. Throat, smoke or anything from this world doesn't exist in my Salvia world.

I always hold the smoke until my vision makes a 180 turn and from there I'm launched into my Salvia world. I never exhale while being consciously in this 'sober' world.

Just test it with a low dose! Good luck!

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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: Annom]
    #3862338 - 03/03/05 12:29 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

that's a trippy avatar annom... I'd like to see more of your digital art in the music+art forum.

Salvia can be very harsh. Try a dual chambered bubbler with ice water in both chambers. It's not to hard to improvise if you don't already have one.


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Re: Salvias harshness [Re: SWEDEN]
    #3864754 - 03/03/05 08:03 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

I've never tried it but you can get mint flavored extract. The smoke might be a bit more soothing. I could be wrong though.

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