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OfflineRJLR
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How easy would be to go see...
    #3857064 - 03/02/05 01:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

a shaman... Have any of you guys had an experience where a shaman takes you on the trip of your life?? I'm coming to the states later this year for two years... I was think during that time I would try to find a shaman willing to have a met of the minds... any good ideas where I might find such a person? South America some place?


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: RJLR]
    #3857106 - 03/02/05 02:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Or, you could become your own shaman.


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: adrug]
    #3857130 - 03/02/05 02:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You have to have a strong and meaning full faith in some thing, I dont think I do... em I will defiantly be experimenting with mixing stuff together, I just need more info first, and to try things separately so I can recognise each drug when I mix them... or am I make too big a deal out of this??
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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: RJLR]
    #3857206 - 03/02/05 02:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was watching a show on Nat'l Geo T.V. about some shamans in Peru who worked w/ Ayahuasca and other enthos. They were doing like, 100 people at a time down at some river in Cuzco. It looked pretty wild. There were alot of white people there, so I think they charged for the ceremony, or something of that nature.


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: RJLR]
    #3857388 - 03/02/05 03:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

google "ayahuaca tourism/adventure/tour/etc"

here's one link: http://www.wasai.com/ayahuasca.htm#daime

you might want to consult those at the ayahuasca.com forums for advice on who is reputable.

I have always considered going on one of the "trips" in Peru or Brazil.


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Vvellum]
    #3857914 - 03/02/05 05:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That would be damned cool! Peru has Machu Pichu and Brazil has Rio.

On second thought, I'd feel safer in Peru. I hear of more kidnappings in Brazil. Then again Brazil is a big place, and the trip location could be totally chill.

Which one would you lean toward?


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: nonoman]
    #3858106 - 03/02/05 06:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

great, ayahuasca has become a tourist attraction.

i wonder how much money they make off of each person.

behind the scenes at "la purga tourist escapes":

hey mitch what did you think of that last show?

oh christ man that was ritch the way you were just making up those words... these guys wouldnt know a real "soul song" if it bit em in the ass.

yeha im thinking of working a little dance into mine.

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be your own shaman, dont contribute to this decapitation of someone elses mythology and faith.

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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Todcasil]
    #3858180 - 03/02/05 06:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

...what is the difference between purchasing ayahuasca ingredients online from a vendor (who received those items by the kilo from natives and their brokers) and going down to Peru and working with a shaman?

I mean, if ayahuasca tourism is harmful (which it can be argued that it is), why isnt purchasing ayahuasca ingredients and "being your own shaman" isnt? Why is one business transaction a commodification of culture and the other transaction not?

If both are equal, then I'd rather learn from a shaman himself and pay him/her directly rather than have the money filtered by the broker and the online vendor (whom often do not care about the shaman and his/her family - only making money).


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Vvellum]
    #3858249 - 03/02/05 06:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i never said you shuold purchase your own ayahuasca once in my post.

shamanism is much more than taking ayahuasca.

and i am not gonna belittle anyone else anymore for doing whatever it is they decide to do, but i will say...  going to peru or wherever to pay money to have a wayward shaman take you on a trip just seems distasteful...  i just dont think thats how its should be happening.  to each there own, as i am not about to stop you from achieving your dreams.  and i didnt think anyone was gonna let me anyway :wink:

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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Vvellum]
    #3858252 - 03/02/05 06:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I didnt get to be involved, but i saw the end of a peyote ritual while in Texas. I was truly interested in the spiritual aspects of it, which is why I think they took me seriously. Learned a lot and eventually got some peyote to take home. There are two rituals for peyote, cross-fire and half moon. One is kind of christian based (which i wasnt expecting) and the other is less tainted.


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: adrug]
    #3858260 - 03/02/05 06:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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adrug said:
Or, you could become your own shaman.




You took the words right off my fingers adrug!


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Todcasil]
    #3858263 - 03/02/05 06:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I actually know nothing of ayahuasca, nor am I interested in shamanism. Peru and Brazil just happen to be on my "to visit" list.

Peru for Machu Picchu, and Brazil for Vale Tudo.

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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Todcasil]
    #3858315 - 03/02/05 06:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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i never said you shuold purchase your own ayahuasca once in my post.

shamanism is much more than taking ayahuasca.




considering that shamanism typically involves the consumption of various ethnobotanical, entheogenic plant material, then eventually "a shaman" far removed from the rainforests will eventually have to purchase such plant material from such brokers. Why not pay the shamans directly to help you?

...and how does one become their own shaman without learning from other shamans? Is "shaman" just a code-word for someone who just likes to take alot of drugs and attaches spirituality to such experiences? Seems to me shamanism involves deep cultural/religious beliefs and customs that are passed from one generation to the next.

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and i am not gonna belittle anyone else anymore for doing whatever it is they decide to do, but i will say... going to peru or wherever to pay money to have a wayward shaman take you on a trip just seems distasteful... i just dont think thats how its should be happening. to each there own, as i am not about to stop you from achieving your dreams. and i didnt think anyone was gonna let me anyway




I believe many shamans in the peruvian amazon are paid in some form or another...I think Maria Sabina was paid as well. They provide a service to the community and receive some sort of compensation.


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Vvellum]
    #3858326 - 03/02/05 06:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I can offer my services for a small fee :wink:


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Ripple]
    #3858357 - 03/02/05 06:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I bet you can.


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Vvellum]
    #3858402 - 03/02/05 06:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Actually I do it for free on a regular basis!


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Vvellum]
    #3858409 - 03/02/05 06:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Todcasil r teh shaman jedi, you betta recognize, foo!


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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: nonoman]
    #3858520 - 03/02/05 07:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i dont come to the pub to debate, so i will let our differences stand :heart:

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Re: How easy would be to go see... [Re: Ripple]
    #3858526 - 03/02/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Actually I do it for free on a regular basis!




I didn't know you practiced Shamanism.


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    #3858556 - 03/02/05 07:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Actually I do it for free on a regular basis!




I didn't know you practiced Shamanism.




I call it life!


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