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OfflineXTCollection
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Store bought manure based compost...
    #3856755 - 03/02/05 12:46 PM (12 years, 20 hours ago)

Hello, afoaf always had failures with blck kow manure. (store bought) he decided for 97c he should try another brand. I cannot get a name, but the bag states:

Organic Manure Derived Compost

If this is organic, it should not have fungicides like the black kow, correct?

Has anyone had any success with store bought compost?


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Re: Store bought manure based compost... [Re: XTCollection]
    #3856797 - 03/02/05 12:54 PM (12 years, 20 hours ago)

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XTCollection said:
Has anyone had any success with store bought compost?




No success, zero. The store bought stuff is either 1) composted too far for cubensis applications or 2) so old that any useable cube nutrients are gone. You don't know how far composted store bought stuff is.

The fungicides are not a real issue here, afterall they kill spores--mycelium isn't harmed from fungicides as far as I know.


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Re: Store bought manure based compost... [Re: Holydiver]
    #3857080 - 03/02/05 01:53 PM (12 years, 19 hours ago)

damn..... Good to know, thank you.

Would an alternative route of buying dry manure from some of the vendors prove succesful? AFOAF loves the succesful pics of other manure based venture.


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Re: Store bought manure based compost... [Re: XTCollection]
    #3857095 - 03/02/05 01:58 PM (12 years, 19 hours ago)

check out some of the sponsors (like TN stud or mycosupply), a few sell prepastuerized manure and compost that would be perfect for cubes, GL


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Re: Store bought manure based compost... [Re: XTCollection]
    #3857305 - 03/02/05 02:59 PM (12 years, 18 hours ago)

Most bagged shitz isnt good, except in the garden.

The bulk of that cow manure comes from feedlots. It has a very high salt content (feed lot cattle are fed excess salt at that time - so they hold more water weight when sold). Most feedlots spray manure with insecticide - fungicide to keep down flies, fungas & such.

Then, if they call the shitz COMPOSTED.......the shitz is NOT COMPOSTED like true compost is, because it is simply piled to rot & dry without any turning - or air - because actual true composting COSTS MONEY.

Then, if anything is added to the shitz it is most often mixed FOREST PRODUCTS, meaning wood pulp, shavings, sawdust, shredded bark & whatever else fits in the catagory of forest products.

Good mushroom compost must be impart made of straw. No straw is used, because it COST MONEY & would REQUIRE ACTUAL COMPOSTING & watering, turning to break it down.

In effect, the stuff in the 98 cent bags, or even the stuff in the $5 bags is the wrong shitz, with the wrong crap in it, plus other wrong stuff added & all of it is treated in the wrong way.... for shroom growing.

Bear in mind, there are some pretty expert cultivators on board. If any bagged shitz worked good, fine or great, it would be the talk of the board, every one would use it & there would not be on board vendors selling high dollar horse/poo or compost suited for cultivation. Because it would not be worthwhile, as the bagged shitz is so CHEAP. So cheap bagged shitz, is just that & suited for garden use - ONLY


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    #3857327 - 03/02/05 03:04 PM (12 years, 18 hours ago)

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Re: Store bought manure based compost... [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3857397 - 03/02/05 03:23 PM (12 years, 17 hours ago)

that post should be a sticky or in an FAQ agar, i havn't been here long but thats the most comprehensive explaination as to why store bought shizzle won't due, nice post


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Re: Store bought manure based compost... [Re: SoK]
    #3857494 - 03/02/05 03:52 PM (12 years, 17 hours ago)

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SoK said:
that post should be a sticky or in an FAQ agar, i havn't been here long but thats the most comprehensive explaination as to why store bought shizzle won't due, nice post




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