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Offlinezahudulallah
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I'm willing to admit
    #3854357 - 03/01/05 10:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

That the elections in Iraq have proved to be one of the greatest things to happen to the geopolitical map in the Middle East. It's now starting to look like Eastern Europe in the late 80's. We are at the beginning of an egalitarian revolution in the Muslim world. The sooner the U.S. gets out, the greater momentum the democratic revolution will gain as fundamentalism would loose its intellectual frontline in Iraq.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3854408 - 03/01/05 11:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

My Lord, that is a big admission coming from you.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3854446 - 03/01/05 11:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The elections haven't done shit to stop the violence though, I think people are patting themselves on the back prematurely. I'd wait for a few years to call it a success.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3854776 - 03/02/05 12:21 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I have always believed in freedom and liberty. I thought that Iraq could serve as a beacon for the rest of the muslim world. I thought that the domino effect and the Bush doctrine would work. It just might end up working out. On the other hand, everything that we have worked for could still blow up in our faces. I don't think it will, but nothing is finished yet.

Qualifications aside, this process seems to be spreading faster than even I expected, and I am an optomist.

What an exciting time to be alive.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3854841 - 03/02/05 12:33 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Meanwhile our country keeps losing freedom and liberty......what a scary time to be alive. I think it is exciting as well, but that is because I feel that there are going to huge social and polictical changes in our lifetime....changes that will result in tolerance, true freedom and liberty as well as peace. Hopefully people realize that living in peace and harmony with one another no matter what is the way we can make this world work. We have the choice to love or hate, it baffles me that so many chose hate.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3855073 - 03/02/05 01:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

In 40 years there will be escort services, LSD, and gay marriages in the Middle East. There's already a counter culture starting to build in Iran. The Islamic world will have its Ginsbergs, Jane Fondas, and John Lennons. It is a beautiful time to be alive.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3855118 - 03/02/05 01:53 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You are a farce, but you crack me up sometimes.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3855130 - 03/02/05 01:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm a true believer.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3855133 - 03/02/05 01:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Dark_Star said:
Hopefully people realize that living in peace and harmony with one another no matter what is the way we can make this world work. We have the choice to love or hate, it baffles me that so many chose hate.




The best chance to get people to work together is to give them a voice and a chance for self determination. It baffles me why that is lost in the translation sometimes.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3855137 - 03/02/05 01:58 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)


In 40 years there will be escort services, LSD, and gay marriages in the Middle East.

I saw an article once that detailed how the Iranian authorities were attempting to handle prostitution in an "Islamic" way. They were allowing men to get married to the prostitute and then divorced thirty minutes later. So, they were officially married when they had sex and therefore it wasn't bad.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3855149 - 03/02/05 02:01 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yea. It's called ijtihad, something that does not exist in Judea-Christianity which allows religious edicts to adapt to modern conditions, believe it or not. Some scholars have even declared that homosexuality is permissible in private since Shariah requires four witnesses to convict a person of homosexuality.


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3859820 - 03/02/05 11:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, it seem like people are losing their voices...or the motivation to use them these days. However, I think there will be big social changes in the near future. We just have to keep trying and keep faith.  :sun:


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Re: I'm willing to admit [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3861325 - 03/03/05 07:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

I'm a true believer.




the only thing truthful about you is that you are a farce..amusing, but a farce nonetheless.


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