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Offlineadam0421
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First Time Bulk patching ????
    #3841810 - 02/27/05 03:13 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Hi this is my first attempt at a bulk grow and I was just wondering if this looks ready to be patched?


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3841815 - 02/27/05 03:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

patch away


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3841818 - 02/27/05 03:15 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

yes patch that before you get overlay


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3841837 - 02/27/05 03:18 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, gonna go patch here in a minute. After I patch, when myc starts coming thru again is that when I should start fruiting it?


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"You know what cheers me up when I'm feeling shitty? Rolled up Aces over kings. Check-Raising stupid tourists and taking huge pots off them. Stacks and towers of checks I cant even see over. Playing all-night High limit hold'em at the Taj, 'Where the sand turns to gold."
-Edward Norton from the movie rounders

"You can't bluff someone who isn't paying attention"

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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3841847 - 02/27/05 03:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

if it comes back up evenly then fruit, if only one spot like ur pic, then patch again


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3841848 - 02/27/05 03:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

if it comes up even or if you see it almost coming up even, otherwise patch it slightely again


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3841856 - 02/27/05 03:21 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

thanks :smile::):)


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3841860 - 02/27/05 03:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Very welcome and I hope you will get beautifull mushrooms! :thumbup:


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3841879 - 02/27/05 03:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

sorry to hijack, but is patching really going to show that much differnce? How hard is it to get a solid pinset without patching?


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I know what strikes me as odd about this. It is totally unnatural. The whole idea is just totally backwards.

So are historians going to look back at 'The Great Cake Eaters'? Damn. That was a backwards step in the evolutionary process. We left Shroomheads in the dust. Welcome to the new age of Vermheads.

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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: ADoobie]
    #3841886 - 02/27/05 03:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ADoobie said:
sorry to hijack, but is patching really going to show that much differnce? How hard is it to get a solid pinset without patching?




if it comes up like his, impossible


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: penlight438094]
    #3842287 - 02/27/05 04:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Its not needed if you apply the casing layer even enough. That takes time to learn though and even still you cant do it all the time. Patching fixes that and definatly needed for an even pinset on casings that look like that. I patch when they look just like that, mist real well and right into the fruiting chamber they go. You dont want to much mycelium on the surface before exposing it to fruiting conditions. You want it just below the surface optimally. It can depend on your conditions though and you need to adjust for yourself so you may want to incubate another day or few, but with bulk it shouldnt really matter unless you have a particually cold chamber, it will create enough heat to carry it through and keep growing before fruiting.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3842384 - 02/27/05 04:41 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thats what I experienced with a strawtub recently.

I fruited it but it continued growing for days before finally after 8 days pinning started.

Hmmz didnt we talk bout this be4?:P

Anyway after all I got a very even (for a beginner like me) pinset.

Days after I fruited:


Pins, look how the myc took over the casing layer, :


Few days later:


Oops, some could stay longer and some are speading their spores already, a few minute slater I started harvesting:


After all almost 90 grams cracker dry from this first flush..;)

EDIT: sorry did not mean to hijack!!!!


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3842492 - 02/27/05 05:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I dont think you really hijacked, you just showed him what it looks like when you dont need to patch. That often doesnt happen and if it comes up any different then as even as MF's, then I think a patching is good. If it comes up like that your good though. IMO though, his casing should have fruited a bit sooner though, thats to much colonization for coming out of the incubator.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3845207 - 02/28/05 01:21 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah thanks its true, it was meant as an illustration to the subjects we were talkning about.

But if I recall well I actually DID patch that casing once. But it grew so strong it almost overlayed in the FC...


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3853706 - 03/01/05 06:08 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, been patched twice since the original post.....wondering if I should patch again or go ahead and start fruiting it?


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-Edward Norton from the movie rounders

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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3853775 - 03/01/05 06:22 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

wow I see. Looking much better. THat will take a solid bit of casing to patch at this point won't it? I would also guess the rest of the casing has to be damn close to breaking the surface. Looks like a very light patch then maybe directly to fruiting chamber?


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ADoobie said:
I know what strikes me as odd about this. It is totally unnatural. The whole idea is just totally backwards.

So are historians going to look back at 'The Great Cake Eaters'? Damn. That was a backwards step in the evolutionary process. We left Shroomheads in the dust. Welcome to the new age of Vermheads.

VvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVv

I ONLY STUDY legal, edible mushrooms and mycology. Any mention of any other kind of mushroom is purely fictional, and pictures are ripped from the internet. I do not grow mushrooms!

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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: ADoobie]
    #3854138 - 03/01/05 07:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

yup, what ^^^^^ said


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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3901190 - 03/11/05 03:44 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

well here is an update of how its doing....let me know what u think.


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"You know what cheers me up when I'm feeling shitty? Rolled up Aces over kings. Check-Raising stupid tourists and taking huge pots off them. Stacks and towers of checks I cant even see over. Playing all-night High limit hold'em at the Taj, 'Where the sand turns to gold."
-Edward Norton from the movie rounders

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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3914977 - 03/14/05 02:49 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

well this is how it all turned out....I'm a bit dissapointed at how everything turned out, but it was my first time...any here goes:



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-Edward Norton from the movie rounders

"You can't bluff someone who isn't paying attention"

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Re: First Time Bulk patching ???? [Re: adam0421]
    #3915305 - 03/14/05 05:26 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I see many aborts.

How do you do your air exchange? Did you patch before you put it into fruiting?

After harvest spray the casing and flush it again. Make sure you give sufficient air exchange.

MF


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