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phi1618
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Woland]
#3853482 - 03/01/05 05:21 PM (19 years, 22 days ago) |
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Woland said: Some kid I went to school with went to a rave and bought an vile of LSD. The vile broke in his pocket and absorbed into his skin while he was dancing. Last I heard was that he was in the psyche ward convinced that he was a glass of orange juice. Wouldn't even sleep laying down because he was scared of spilling. Any time nurses came with a pen he started screaming because he thought it was a straw and the nurse was going to drink him.... so yeah. I'm not sure of the complete truth to these details, but I know I still see trails and have flashbacks from one night when I took way too much, so I don't completely doubt this. Be safe.
The "glass of orange juice" must be one of the most prevalent urban legends ever. I've run into it at least a couple times, once in my home town (US) and once in Spain from an Australian girl.
I'm curious about the ld50 listed above. Alot of times, ld50s are determined by animal testing. With acid, there's a good chance that the ld50 is significantly higher than listed.
To my knowlege, nobody has died from an LSD overdose. I read of a case online (not sure whether it's true or not) of a person who snorted crystal LSD thinking that it was coke. He didn't die.
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Re: OD on acid [Re: phi1618]
#3853675 - 03/01/05 06:01 PM (19 years, 22 days ago) |
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I think this happened to Micky Heart's children, while th eband was on stage his two kids found a vila that said "C" or something like that. They had quite the evening, but where ok.
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Re: OD on acid [Re: discoabe]
#3853710 - 03/01/05 06:09 PM (19 years, 22 days ago) |
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discoabe said: I just did a quick search and the LD 50 of LSD seems to be 30-45mg/kg. I weigh 100kg so that 3000-4500mg of LSD to kill me 50% of the time.
LD50 for humans would be even higher. Your looking at a dose thats inconceivable really. It is one of the safest drugs PHYSICALLY that exists. However it can be dangerous to a fragile mind which is another story altogether.
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rdnp2035
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Right, 3000mg = 30,000 doses at 100ug, a normal person dose..1-2 hits. The standard high dose of acid is a ten strip..1mg, Tops. So the only way you could physically overdose is if you eat an ungodly amount of crystal, which you can't get..if you rounded up a city's worth of sheets and ate them all before you fell out of your body. You wouldn't get past sheet two if you tried... LSD is safe!
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freddurgan
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Woland]
#3853990 - 03/01/05 07:05 PM (19 years, 22 days ago) |
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Seriously I've heard that retarded story a million times. Give it up.
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Legoulash
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The most dangerous thing while on LSD is thinking you can fly.. But if your already experianced you should be able to handle yourself.
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Toricious
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Re: OD on acid [Re: phi1618]
#3854893 - 03/01/05 10:47 PM (19 years, 21 days ago) |
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Wolandsaid:
To my knowlege, nobody has died from an LSD overdose. I read of a case online (not sure whether it's true or not) of a person who snorted crystal LSD thinking that it was coke. He didn't die.
Check erowid, i'm too lazy to right now, but someone injected some LSD crystals thinking it was meth and died....the only case.
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delta9
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Re: OD on acid [Re: discoabe]
#3855049 - 03/01/05 11:37 PM (19 years, 21 days ago) |
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discoabe said: I just did a quick search and the LD 50 of LSD seems to be 30-45mg/kg. I weigh 100kg so that 3000-4500mg of LSD to kill me 50% of the time.
If you were a rat.
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Re: OD on acid *DELETED* [Re: delta9]
#3855361 - 03/02/05 12:49 AM (19 years, 21 days ago) |
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Frappy
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Woland]
#3855763 - 03/02/05 03:48 AM (19 years, 21 days ago) |
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Veter
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Frappy]
#3861125 - 03/03/05 02:02 AM (19 years, 20 days ago) |
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I cant believe people tell that story about the vile and the orange juice...who would ever believe that garbage?
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Frappy
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Veter]
#3862654 - 03/03/05 01:51 PM (19 years, 20 days ago) |
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Veter said: I cant believe people tell that story about the vile and the orange juice...who would ever believe that garbage?
Apparantly the people who tell it.
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Sk8orDie
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Re: OD on acid [Re: discoabe]
#3898103 - 03/10/05 02:20 PM (19 years, 13 days ago) |
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discoabe said: I just did a quick search and the LD 50 of LSD seems to be 30-45mg/kg. I weigh 100kg so that 3000-4500mg of LSD to kill me 50% of the time.
I thin the LD50 is the dose that kills 50% of the population, not you 50% of the time... not being bitchy, just semantics
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Phluck
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The only real danger is someone telling you what you're taking is acid when it's not-rat poison, and the like.
AHAHHHHHH!
It's never rat poison. Please stop believing this nonsense.
(I'm sure someone already pointed this out in the thread, but the more times the better. PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE SILLY URBAN LEGENDS.)
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Phluck]
#3898114 - 03/10/05 02:26 PM (19 years, 13 days ago) |
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About LSD making you go crazy, i've read that the incidenets of people taking LSD and going crazy are just as common as people just going crazy... meaning that people that go crazy after taking LSD probably had a psycological problem already and the trip just put em over the edge. Don't know for sure if this stats are true, but it's what i've read.
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Phluck
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Phluck]
#3898122 - 03/10/05 02:30 PM (19 years, 13 days ago) |
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Ok, so this thread contains two of the oldest, and stupidest myths about acid there is.
The orange juice myth, and the rat poison myth. The orange juice one is so pervasive, and so many people have heard it about "a friend of a friend" that it's got all the earmarks of an urban legend. Tack on the fact that psychosis simply isn't like that. People don't start believing they're inanimate objects all of a sudden, and anyone who has any basic knowledge about psychosis would know this.
The rat poison one simply doesn't make a lick of sense. Why the hell would anyone lace acid with rat poison, or sell rat poison as acid? There is no brand of rat poison in existance that will make you trip. It's complete bullshit, and can be debunked using nothing more than common sense.
It's pretty depressing to see such bullshit in these forums. C'mon guys, you're supposed to be interested in drugs... don't you read? Or do you get all your drug info from the burn outs you knew in high school?
Sites like lycaeum.org and erowid.org are full of good, well edited, and informative information. As well as tons of good stories. If you have an actual interest in drugs, you should enjoy reading that stuff.
Also, any decent public library will carry a few books about drugs, why don't you check a few out?
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JROS14
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Phluck]
#3898528 - 03/10/05 03:49 PM (19 years, 13 days ago) |
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acid is less toxic than vitamin C. so i'd say ur not in that much danger. Just don't drink too much orange juice and you should be safe....
strangely enough i heard that orange myth last night for the first time, and my friend said he "knew a guy who..." so i believed him. Man am i gonna bitch him out about that one...
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Phluck]
#3898597 - 03/10/05 03:59 PM (19 years, 13 days ago) |
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TOXICITY LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE: 700 NG/KG ORAL-HUMAN TDLO; 2857 NG/KG ORAL-HUMAN TDLO; 857 NG/KG ORAL-HUMAN TDLO; 750 NG/KG INTRAMUSCULAR-HUMAN TDLO; 16 MG/KG INTRAVENOUS-RAT LD50; 50 MG/KG INTRAPERITONEAL-MOUSE LD50; 46 MG/KG INTRAVENOUS-MOUSE LD50; 300 UG/KG INTRAVENOUS-RABBIT LD50; 16 MG/KG SUBCUTANEOUS-GUINEA PIG LD50; 1800 UG/KG ORAL-WILD BIRD LD50; MUTAGENIC EFFECTS DATA (RTECS); REPRODUCTIVE EFFECTS DATA (RTECS). CARCINOGEN STATUS: NONE. LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE IS TOXIC PARENTERALLY. POISONING DUE TO PSYCHOTOMIMETIC AGENTS MAY AFFECT THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM. PERSONS WITH EMOTIONAL DISTURBANCES OR ORGANIC BRAIN DISEASE MAY BE AT INCREASED RISK FROM EXPOSURE. CROSS TOLERENCE BETWEEN DIFFERENT PSYCHOTOMIMETIC AGENTS MAY OCCUR. INTERACTIONS WITH MEDICATIONS HAVE BEEN REPORTED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_data_sheet.shtml some interesting info here i couldnt read it all though the all caps was hurting my eyes
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Re: OD on acid [Re: Gainer]
#3899594 - 03/10/05 07:07 PM (19 years, 13 days ago) |
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As Albert Hoffman(LSD's inventor) has said LD/50's for LSD are inaccurate. They are based on animal LD/50's and then correlated to humans. With LSD it isn't possible to come up with a accurate human LD/50 based on animal LD/50's. I'm not saying that there isn't a human LD/50 ,it's just we will never know it.
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dblaney
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Didn't someone die from taking a gram or two of it once, or did I just imagine reading that?
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