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    #3851160 - 03/01/05 11:05 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: Sinbad]
    #3851204 - 03/01/05 11:22 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

P.S Many thanks to all here, i know this is a place where good intentions thrive.  :grin:


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: Sinbad]
    #3851363 - 03/01/05 12:17 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

nice post, i completely understood what you are saying.

Once you have reached this state of mind, is it possible to regress to the old state of mind by not meditating anymore or something? Is this something that, once you reach it, it stays forever?


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while *DELETED* [Re: exclusive58]
    #3851462 - 03/01/05 12:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: Sinbad]
    #3851473 - 03/01/05 12:46 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

after you have progressed from this overly wordy state of mind you might have a fleeting glimpse of all the things you claim to be familiar with.
learn to do more with fewer words


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3851523 - 03/01/05 12:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

If you find no benefit in my posts, please feel free not to read them.  I'm sure that others find benefit from the descriptions which you deem lengthy.

But i assure you this amount of wording 'is' necessary to accurately convey what I'm intending to communicate, if i use fewer words, there will be a considerably larger margin for error in communication and interpretation. I want people to be clear about what I'm saying, and not formulate wrong views and misunderstandings.

Your post may have been a backhanded insult in some way which eludes me, but please do not attempt to judge my state of mind from over an Internet forum, its quite silly.  :smirk:


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: Sinbad]
    #3851721 - 03/01/05 01:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

it might be a backhanded blessing which you will enjoy in years to come, your time here has not been wasted.


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3851792 - 03/01/05 02:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Its a little presumptious of you to assume to know how my mind is progressing or indeed how i am at all. You may use few words to communicate but to me your expressions seem extremely unclear and abstract. If you say too little and its unclear, people wont know what you mean. Say too much and only the truly interested will read all you have written. Then there will be fewer ego games at play.

You have no idea whether or not my practice is functioning, the only way for you to truly know, is to test out the methods i have posted, and discover whether or not they function, then and only then will you be in a position to judge.

Do you have anything to say at all about this thread? Did you even read it?  :shrug:


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: Sinbad]
    #3851798 - 03/01/05 02:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

go with god


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3851809 - 03/01/05 02:06 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Nothing worthwhile to contribute to the topic then? Ok thats fine, maybe your comment is something i might take into consideration.


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: Sinbad]
    #3855939 - 03/02/05 08:01 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Red, he has a point there.


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3855941 - 03/02/05 08:07 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

oops, i wasn't finished, i was saying he had a point when he said:

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Its a little presumptious of you to assume to know how my mind is progressing or indeed how i am at all. You may use few words to communicate but to me your expressions seem extremely unclear and abstract. If you say too little and its unclear, people wont know what you mean. Say too much and only the truly interested will read all you have written. Then there will be fewer ego games at play.





Maybe its just because u have already reached this state of mind that you judge that it could be described with fewer words.
But i must say, some of your posts are quite unclear to me, and mostly they are the ones that you explain things with few words. Could you explain this?


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: exclusive58]
    #3856022 - 03/02/05 08:48 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

exclusive:

the world was not created and it does not change because we discuss it, at best we can lift a few veils to let the observer see. the words then can be like levers and fulcra.

instead of heaping out a huge clutter of verbage I try to project expressions that help people to stop clutter and see for themselves.

A peek here, a glimpse there. how could I presume to offer more?


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3856229 - 03/02/05 10:13 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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the world was not created and it does not change because we discuss it




before anything is to be done, it needs to be discussed, analyzed, dissected, so that it is clearer what we are dealing with and what needs to be done. wise  and responsible change can come this way. And how would you ever know that the world has not taken a different course than the one it would have taken had we not discussed you and i today?

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at best we can lift a few veils to let the observer see.




the observer can see better if the veils open themselves up to him in a clearer manner, and the best way to be clear IMO is to define what we mean the best we possibly can, and this may take more words than ordinarily

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instead of heaping out a huge clutter of verbage I try to project expressions that help people to stop clutter and see for themselves


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but you can't make people see things for themselves if its not clear what they are supposed to be looking at. this "clutter of verbage" can sometimes bring a clearer shape of the idea you are trying to communicate with better defined edges.

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A peek here, a glimpse there. how could I presume to offer more?




by developping! its clear that you have much to offer here, so why not? personally you're one of my favorite shroomerites, i find you very interesting and intriguing at the same time. its just that sometimes i don't understand what you're saying, and i think its too bad.
i hope i didn't write too many words and that you were able to read the reply entirely, i know sometimes you like to pick out a few words to read out of a whole post, and give out replies concerning only these few words you read.  :tongue:  :wink:


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: exclusive58]
    #3856263 - 03/02/05 10:26 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

the hardest thing for me to learn was to dance, and I am still a student trying not to be stiff


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3856288 - 03/02/05 10:33 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

you're at it again!

alright, i'll stop now and let you be now..hehe


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: exclusive58]
    #3856356 - 03/02/05 10:50 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

if you look really hard at something you will only see your own effort - but if you let go you may catch a glimpse of what was there.

I hope that talking about dancing give you a moment of respite and
strongly suggest that you collect glimpses where possible and form your own dynamic pictures of this changing universe.

or you could try to dissect a few carcasses and I will seem to tease incomprehensibly from an alien dimension.


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3856731 - 03/02/05 12:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

"The more you say, the more you go to blend."
-Unknown :P


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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: Gomp]
    #3859046 - 03/02/05 08:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

respite is a great word...

When i am driving on the interstate, and it is raining, as i pass under an overpass, i whisper "respite"
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Re: Freedom from Thought for All - My last post for a while [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #3859087 - 03/02/05 08:45 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

To transcend conventionality you must first embrace it in all its length that some may see no need for. I really liked that post Sinbad! :smile: See you around, when you come back.


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