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OfflineUnenlightenedOne
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Registered: 08/11/04
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Re: Herbal Medicine and Natural Remedies [Re: EarthAngel]
    #3881040 - 03/07/05 12:54 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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And even though it sounds like you know ur stuff Unelightened one, i found your arguement of the "I bet they were store-bought supplements in tablets or capsules right?" to be unethical.Sorry, but thats my industry and in this country there is not many grow ya own fixme uptea goin on in our backyards, maybe where ever you are you have stronger regulations on what they are allowed to sell?, Basically, we have a range of strengths according to each individuals needs.





What I said wasnt unethical.It is a simple fact that the vast majority of store bought supplements contain low-grade herbs at doses at a small fraction of the average effective dose.It is simply not enough for anyone to receive benefits.I did see a few supplements that had decent quality herbs at decent doses but out of an entire shelving section out of several dozen different herbs I saw 3 supplements that where at a decent dosage.I sampled some of those and found them to be of only decent quality.Not the greatest but not the worst either.

As for my herbal knowledge, I have many years of survival and wildcrafting training as well as having studied herbs for many years.Ive read dozens and dozens of books,articles,etc.Ive taken numerous classes on herbs and I am also a herbal/plant alchemist.And when I have the time and money I am planning on getting trained and certified as a master herbalist.I have also spoken to and learned much from local herbalists.Both western and traditional chinese herbal medicine.Needless to say I have a lot of experience with herbs.I really do know what Im talking about and I think that what I said was a fair statement and that people should know if something is not up to par.Its not fair to people to pay over-inflated prices for a product and have it not even work or even have a chance of working.

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Everybody is uniquie, everybody has different frequencies, intollerences, blood pressure, blood sugar levels, dis-ease's etc.. all information that one "prescribing" must take on board.





I understand this very well.

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i never reccomend anybody self prescribe themself something, just because it worked for their friend or their neighbour!!!





I agree with this.I can self prescribe myself without problem but only because of the vast experience I have with herbs and my knowledge of herbs.This is likely why I never run into problems with herbs.

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The safest way to test yourself to see if your body even needs anything, is to learn the simple art of keneisiology and muscle test yourself.





A good working knowledge of nutrition helps to recognize and correct nutritional deficiencies and determine true illness from deficiency.A good working knowledge of acupressure is also very helpful.Accupressure therapy combined with herbal medicine produces much better effects than herbal medicine alone.They work together synergistically.Knowing accupressure will also help diagnose problems.


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OfflineEarthAngel
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Registered: 01/23/05
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Loc: New Zealand
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Re: Herbal Medicine and Natural Remedies [Re: UnenlightenedOne]
    #3883702 - 03/07/05 05:34 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry i wasnt getting at you with most of that, i just got my back up without need , as im usually having to defend all natural products against the world! Sorry for laying my bad day on the table.
And may i ask how u use accupressure to diagonse problems? I use accupressure daily and understand it all, but not sure how you are using it to diagnose I'd be really interested in knowing :smile:
And the other stuff about self prescribing was not against you, i beleive that you're very clued up in these areas, i was just warning the people who may read that information & think they need things, when they dont :smile:
Peace

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OfflineUnenlightenedOne
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Registered: 08/11/04
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Last seen: 18 years, 10 months
Re: Herbal Medicine and Natural Remedies [Re: EarthAngel]
    #3884592 - 03/07/05 08:57 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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Sorry i wasnt getting at you with most of that, i just got my back up without need , as im usually having to defend all natural products against the world! Sorry for laying my bad day on the table.





No problem.We all have bad days sometimes. :grin:

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And may i ask how u use accupressure to diagonse problems? I use accupressure daily and understand it all, but not sure how you are using it to diagnose I'd be really interested in knowing





The basic explanation of how diagnosing with acupressure works: Acupressurists "read" problems with the body via pressure points in the arms.They "read" the energy flow in the meridians at these points.Each pulse has two phases.The first being the superficial and the second phase being deep.If one finds the pulse to be absent in the superficial phase it usually signifies a problem in that meridian and its corresponding organs/parts of the body.These imbalances manifest in illness/disease in the corresponding parts of the body.By correcting the imbalances it then takes care of the problem at its root rather than only treating the symptoms with medication like modern medicine.

The pulses are read by "listening" to the patterns in the energy.It can be fast,slow,spurting,writhing,missed "beats" etc.These patterns correspond to various imbalances and diseases/illnesses.Face reading is also effective when used with acupressure.Bags under the eyes,oily skin,acne,yellow tint to the eyes,etc correspond to various illnesses/imbalances.For example a yellow tint to the yes indicates a liver problem and bags under the eyes indicate a kidney problem.

Pulse reading and face reading requires A LOT of reading and studying and maybe some courses/classes.It is as complicated as any other medical system but one can learn easier than most other medical systems IMO.


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And the other stuff about self prescribing was not against you, i beleive that you're very clued up in these areas, i was just warning the people who may read that information & think they need things, when they dont





(nods) I wasnt sure whom you meant so I commented on it anyway.


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