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Offlinebanda1825
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h2o2?
    #3849139 - 02/28/05 10:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

where can i buy some h2o2? in the hydroponics store? in walmart? thanks.


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Re: h2o2? [Re: banda1825]
    #3849146 - 02/28/05 11:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hydrogen Peroxide: found at drug stores, grocery stores, Walmart, Kmart, basically everywhere.


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Re: h2o2? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3849167 - 02/28/05 11:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

sorry, i am a foriener. do they come in liquid or any other form? what section or where i can find them in the store? what are they mainly for besides cleaning the enviroment for mushrooms?


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Re: h2o2? [Re: banda1825]
    #3849179 - 02/28/05 11:08 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It's a general antiseptic, used to clean cuts and scrapes, that sort of thing. Look in the medical/households section. It will come in dark bottles, liquid form.



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Re: h2o2? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3849204 - 02/28/05 11:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i think i know what you are talking about now. i remember it when the damn nurses used to put that on my scrapes on my knees when i was a kid. it burned like bitch. oh, and thanks for the picture. i will be sure to find it at walmart.


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Re: h2o2? [Re: banda1825]
    #3849227 - 02/28/05 11:19 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

that was probably alcohol


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Re: h2o2? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3849241 - 02/28/05 11:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, alcohol burned like a bitch too, but h2o2 made bubbles.


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Re: h2o2? [Re: banda1825]
    #3849368 - 02/28/05 11:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yup thats the stuff lol


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Re: h2o2? [Re: godfann1]
    #3849465 - 03/01/05 12:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

can u get drunk off of rubbing alcohol? i always wanted to know...


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Re: h2o2? [Re: banda1825]
    #3849488 - 03/01/05 12:11 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

people always look at me weird when i have 5-8 big bottles in my cart...


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Re: h2o2? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3849492 - 03/01/05 12:11 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

p4kSouL said:
can u get drunk off of rubbing alcohol? i always wanted to know...




do you normally drink yourself into a toxic coma? if so then.. yea probably be about the same lol :stoned:


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Re: h2o2? [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3849526 - 03/01/05 12:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

awesome! im going to have a wild and crazy rubbing alcohol party! :cool:


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Re: h2o2? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3849538 - 03/01/05 12:20 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

am i invited? remember, i'm right down the road :stoned:


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Re: h2o2? [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3849563 - 03/01/05 12:24 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hell yes locals only! remmember to bring a pack of rubbing alcohol so we don't run out. we wouldn't want that to happen would we? :smirk:


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Re: h2o2? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3851056 - 03/01/05 10:18 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Oh no, no, I wouldnt worry.


You'll enter your comas long before you run out :smile:


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Re: h2o2? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3851230 - 03/01/05 11:30 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Iso alcohol is no less or more toxic than ethanol(normal drinking alcohol) but the thing is your body doesn't get the drunk affects from Iso. Since you don't feel drunk you drink more of it and put yourself into the hospital. So, no, do not drink rubbing alcohol.


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Re: h2o2? [Re: PennyPincher]
    #3851361 - 03/01/05 12:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I would check your facts again.

Does Rubbing alcohol Make a Good Poison?


Q: I am considering using isopropanol as a poison. My victim is a heavy drinker and isopropanol will be added to his drink by the killer. He will appear to have died from his heavy drinking and the isoporopanol will mimic diabetes in his system. The autopsy will show some edema, swelling and hemorrhaging in the chest cavity. I need to know more about the diabetes part. What else could show up in an autopsy? Am I on the right track? How quickly will he die? I know there will be acetone formed. How long does this take? How much isopropanol (assume 70% soln.) must be ingested to produce the desired effect?


A: Isopropanol is Isopropyl or Rubbing alcohol so is readily available. It can enter the body by ingestion, inhalation of the vapors, and through the skin. Many years ago, alcohol rubs were used to lower fever, particularly in children. It readily evaporated and did indeed lower body temperature, but it also was absorbed through the skin and occasionally led to coma.


Like ethanol (ethyl alcohol), which is the alcohol in alcoholic beverages, isopropanol is an intoxicant and a central nervous sytem depressant. Its effects appear rapidly after ingestion, usually within 10 to 30 minutes, depending upon amount consumed and whether food or other beverages are taken also. The person will appear very drunk with drowsiness, poor balance, staggering gait, slurred speech, and poor coordination. Nausea, vomiting (sometimes bloody), abdominal pain, sweating, stupor, coma, and death from respiratory depression may follow. Hemorrhage into the bronchial tubes (breathing tubes or airways) and the chest cavity may occur.


It is true that 15 to 20 percent of the ingested isopropanol is converted to acetone in the body. This produces an acidosis (excess acid in the body). In diabetics, lack of insulin may lead to diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA), which may initially appear like alcohol intoxication. The acidosis in the situation is due to build up of ketones in the body. However, a physician should be able to quickly distinguish diabetes from alcohol ingestion. A simple blood sugar analysis, which can be done fairly quickly (immediately with a finger stick analysis) would show a low or normal sugar level in excess alcohol intake and a significantly elevated level in DKA.


Teratment of acute isopropanol intoxication is to lavage (pump) the stomach, give intravenous (IV) fluids with glucose (sugar), and support respiration and blood pressure with a ventilator and medications as needed.


As a poison, isopropanol works well. It is easily disguised as an alcoholic beverage and the victim would simple appear to be extremely drunk until he became very ill. Without medical treatment, coma and death would follow. The amount needed and the time required for death to arrive, varies greatly from person and depends upon how quickly it was consumed and how quickly it was absorbed. An empty stomach would hasten the intoxication, while the concomitant intake of food would slow it.

Give your victim four or five hefty drinks in 60 to 90 minutes and kiss him goodbye.


At autopsy, the ME would easily find the isopropanol in the blood and would easily rule out the presence of diabetes as the cause of death. He could find bleeding into the lungs and the chest cavity. He might find corrosion and bleeding of the stomach as well.

Copyright 2002 DPLyle MD

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http://www.dplylemd.com/Questions/archive/isopropylpoisoning.htm


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