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OfflineAtma
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Standarized vs. Non Standarized Salvia
    #3847864 - 02/28/05 06:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hi all, I have only tried standardized Salvia extracts. From personal experiences, how much better is standard compared to nonstandard? Also, what extract amount would you go for(I have only had 10x, have you broken through with 5x?)? Is it a waste to get the non? What would YOU buy? Thanks in advance.


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Re: Standarized vs. Non Standarized Salvia [Re: Atma]
    #3847924 - 02/28/05 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Although I have yet to try salvia,when it comes to any herbal or plant product standardized is always best since naturally the active chemicals can vary greatly from growing medium to growing medium as well as climate,photoperiod length,location and light source.

If you buy standardized you are guaranted to get specific amount of the active ingredient in each dose each time and you can gauge exactly how much you need to accomplish the same effects.

If you use unstandardized products one time the same amount could produce much less of an effect than you want or severely more of an effect than you want at the exact same doses depending.


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Re: Standarized vs. Non Standarized Salvia [Re: Atma]
    #3847926 - 02/28/05 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you trust 100% in your supplier get the non-standart. IME some vendors cheat in non-standartized extracts.

If you don't trust the supplier 100% get the standart.

Assuming the vendor is honest the non-standart should be equal to standart. The only difference is that the standartized has always the same amount of salvinorin per gram, while non-standart can vary according to the potency of the starting product.

Personally, i like to make my own 10X and i'd recommend anyone to make their own.
It's easy as pie, A LOT cheaper than buying it, and the stuff always comes out ridiculously strong :wink:


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Re: Standarized vs. Non Standarized Salvia [Re: Atma]
    #3847927 - 02/28/05 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I generally buy nonstandardized, simply because it is more economical. The only real difference I have noticed is sometimes one bowl might be slightly less potent than the next. This won't happen with standardized.

Basically they are the same, or very close.


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Re: Standarized vs. Non Standarized Salvia [Re: dblaney]
    #3847940 - 02/28/05 07:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks alot guys, I think I might actually try and make my own. Anyone got a link to a how-to site?


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Re: Standarized vs. Non Standarized Salvia [Re: Atma]
    #3848062 - 02/28/05 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hehe, esin, UnenlightenedOne, and myself all responded to you at the same time.

Anyways, check out Erowid's Salvia section, they have some good tek's there.


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Re: Standarized vs. Non Standarized Salvia [Re: dblaney]
    #3848968 - 02/28/05 10:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

nonstandardized has more oily chlorophyls and tannin and so it will burn wetter and be weirder or heavier in taste.
it is harder to burn than standardized but only a little.
I prefer standardized but both are usually fine.


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