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Offlineprototypical_man
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cardboard spawn?
    #3845101 - 02/28/05 02:37 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Ive seen the cardboard cloneing tek and i was wondering if you could shred cardboard in larger amounts and use it as a spawn to straw/ dung/ compost...


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3845105 - 02/28/05 02:40 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I don't see why you couldn't do this, but I doubt cardboard is as good as something like wbs, for several reasons.


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: korins]
    #3845130 - 02/28/05 02:55 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well I have been considering this cause you can microwave cardboard, you can get cardboard free all over the place , and it doesnt need to be incubated in jars, you could do it in plastic take out trays , etc. .

today i made a medium tray .. tomarrow im gonna make a bunch more trays...

could you elaborate on the several reasons?

I understand cardboard is low nute value but if its primarly being used to spawn manure/straw, then doesnt that become the primary source of nutes? any input much appreciated...


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3845152 - 02/28/05 03:02 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure how much help I can be. I've only heard of carboard/paper products being used as part of a bulk substrate. I'm not sure I completely understand your plan, but without being sterilized and isolated, I don't know if you could depend on warm wet cardboard not to get contaminated. Any thoughts people?


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: korins]
    #3845298 - 02/28/05 04:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You know somethin cool. Coir/newspaper/coffee grounds as bulk.


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: korins]
    #3845421 - 02/28/05 04:56 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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korins said:
I'm not sure how much help I can be. I've only heard of carboard/paper products being used as part of a bulk substrate. I'm not sure I completely understand your plan, but without being sterilized and isolated, I don't know if you could depend on warm wet cardboard not to get contaminated. Any thoughts people?




Cardboard has been said to be somewhat contam resistant.


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: Frappy]
    #3846073 - 02/28/05 12:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure he's going to sterilize the carboard first.

THe problem is, large mounts wont colonize quickly I bet. You'd have to get the water content perfect (which you couldnt do in the microwave) and even still I dont know. Small amounts work to get something growing but to do whole jars of shreaded cardboard? Dont forget your need like 10% spawn so if your doing 40 quarts of bulk you need 4 quarts of cardboard.

This doesnt mean you shouldnt try it with a jar...but I wouldnt do the microwave.


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: prototypical_man]
    #3846087 - 02/28/05 12:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It is reccomended by Stametes in TMC for growing Psilocybe Cyanescens.
So yes it does work for the wood lovers pretty good , not so sure cubes would like it all that much.Just about any cellulostic waste is okay for the wood lovers.


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #3846146 - 02/28/05 12:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting, have u tried it?


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Re: cardboard spawn? [Re: chocbruce]
    #3846237 - 02/28/05 12:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I believe Anno and/or Prisoner have for cubies. I also stated my skeptisisms on it (sterility too) a while back and one of them eplained that it works, and works quite well. For small amounts its can even be prefered to agar since theres so fewer steps (soakd it, jar it, pc it) compared, less chance of contaming.

And I've seen cubies colonize AND fruit off newpaper, a bra, money, a bible. Cubies will colonize just about anything wet and sterile.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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