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Tyvek use for bulk incubation, and straw question! Help...
    #3844436 - 02/28/05 12:27 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was wondering if I could use Tyvek instead of a perforated plastic sheet to incubate spawn run bulk substrate. Also need to know how to cut straw to an apropriate size, and which size is this?


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Re: Tyvek use for bulk incubation, and straw question! Help... [Re: Alegalize]
    #3844842 - 02/28/05 01:26 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't see why tyvek wouldn't work for this, as long as it can still breath a little. I don't believe straw size is that important really, anywhere from 1/16 of an inch to 4 inch pieces will colonize. Correct me if I'm wrong...


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Re: Tyvek use for bulk incubation, and straw question! Help... [Re: korins]
    #3844954 - 02/28/05 01:49 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

the rule of thumb is "no bigger than your pinkie finger" for straw because the mycellium needs to colonize inside the straw, and its easier for it to do this in small pieces of straw. so yea 1/16 to 3 or so inches, in that ballpark. think pinkie finger.


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Re: Tyvek use for bulk incubation, and straw question! Help... [Re: Alegalize]
    #3845994 - 02/28/05 11:49 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was wondering if I could use Tyvek instead of a perforated plastic sheet to incubate spawn run bulk substrate. Also need to know how to cut straw to an apropriate size, and which size is this?

You mean tyvek right over the straw layer? That could work I guess. Just make sure whatever you cover your straw with, its PACKED down, it can breathe, and its sitting right on top of the straw (not covering the whole container. If you dont put it right over the straw and you just put on the lid, sometimes straw can dry out from the airspace between the straw and the top of the tub. Makes it harder to keep the straw compacted when the plastic/lid/whatever is on top too.

Straw doesnt HAVE to be cut. You can do it by hand with shears or you can get a big garbage can, cut a hole in the top, stick a weedwacker in there and go to town. The smaller you cut the peices the better. It will mix easier, be easier to work with, colonize quicker, hold more nutes per cubic foot. The best and how I always prepare my straw these days: a blender. It takes time since you can only fill it half way and then you have to pulse it while shoving it down with some sort of pusher (I used an empty h202 bottle). Its way worth it though. I could fit twice as much straw in a tub once shreaded with the blender. Great substrate to work with. Again though, you can just take it right off the bail into the bag if your lazy and want more work for yourself in the end :smile:


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Re: Tyvek use for bulk incubation, and straw question! Help... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3846003 - 02/28/05 11:52 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

the best straw chopper I have ever used



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Re: Tyvek use for bulk incubation, and straw question! Help... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3846035 - 02/28/05 12:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I could fit twice as much straw in a tub once shreaded with the blender. Great substrate to work with.




How does this effect colonization times and yields? Is that just for straight straw? Most teks I've seen (AFOAF's never used just straw) seem to get it in there plenty tight.


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Re: Tyvek use for bulk incubation, and straw question! Help... [Re: Tantalus]
    #3846142 - 02/28/05 12:32 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yes straight straw. Colonization...well 2 quarts of creeper spawn to 20 quarts of straw colonized in 5 days. I have not tested yeilds yet (just cased 3 yesterday and 4 more will be cased today) so I will know soon. It made it much easier to mix in the spawn though and compacting wasnt anywhere near as hard. I even transfered two creeper blocks to different containers yesterday (day 5) and the blocks of straw stayed together for the move and were hard as hell.

According to Iamthewalrus, it increases yeild. I am inclined to believe him from his pictures. And more nutes per tub for sure the last time I did straw. I had great results on my straw last time though so... (hardly cut, hand cut with scissors a bit)


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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