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Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms
    #3843337 - 02/27/05 09:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

In reference to my other post I now have photographs. Please see the other post "Hunter needs id..." thank you.

basically some spore pics (one behind white, another behind blue) and some of the actual fungus. found in februrary in clusters at a tree base in woods. in central fla (see other post for all infoz)



just go to this site url, ok? this is the only way i could do it this late at night. thanks...

http://www.geocities.com/tampabayfinearts/shroomerypics.html

shroomeey peace and love + more rain


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3843450 - 02/27/05 09:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hi cosmicsea,

The pictures are small, and the mushrooms have dried out, so it's hard to tell, but they do appear to be of the genus Gymnopilus.

Habitat?
Smell?
Taste? (Chew up a little piece and spit it out)
Spore color? (I can't tell from the photo)


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: shroomydan]
    #3846657 - 02/28/05 02:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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shroomydan said:
Hi cosmicsea,

The pictures are small, and the mushrooms have dried out, so it's hard to tell, but they do appear to be of the genus Gymnopilus.

Habitat?
Smell?
Taste? (Chew up a little piece and spit it out)
Spore color? (I can't tell from the photo)






They were in central florida woods/ flatwoods area. at the base of a large tree probably oak. clustered. spores are orange-rust. <i thought the photos were better than that... maybe yahoo resized them. > i have yet to taste but they smell like it would be nasty-bitter.


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3846669 - 02/28/05 02:32 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

just download the photos please, they are larger than the website is giving you, the viewer.

thanks yall

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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3848402 - 02/28/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, those are Gyms. I can't tell you if they are G. spectabilis however. Maybe.


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: shroomydan]
    #3856365 - 03/02/05 10:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well cool man. I knew it because of the veil remnant. Maybe some body else can give another opinion, shroomery?

I don't know if the flesh of these fits the flesh description for spectabilis, but these were in February in Florida!!!


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3856397 - 03/02/05 11:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yeah so if this helps im positive those are gyms....pretty sure they are gymnopilus spectabilis because of where u found them,time,location,look. I live in central fla and havent founf those personally but have heard some people bragging about there g.s. if they are even better for u. anyways impressive. :mushroom2:


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: ucfshroomguy]
    #3863997 - 03/03/05 07:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hey thanks man, i'm still nervous about attempting a bioassay. but anyways, i appreciate your opinion and i hope some more posters will contribute.

i had a weird feeling they were because right after i picked them (Way out there in the woods) i saw an elf man with 5 baby hogs.

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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3865567 - 03/04/05 12:50 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I could not specifically id them as spectabilis. Most likely they are Gymnopilus but what species is anyones guess.

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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3877147 - 03/06/05 02:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

yeah that's crazy stuff.... PEACE


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3877275 - 03/06/05 03:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Not worth the risk, too many species in the genus that are not well documented and unknown as far as edibility goes.
One would need an actual complete key, which is not easy to find, along with a microscope (supplies and all) in order to get an accurate species ID.


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: eris]
    #3883022 - 03/07/05 04:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

That's amazing to me. I was completely sketched out about tryin anything like this. But you know <italics> they had that feeling that it was psychoactive...

Peace

thanks for the messages and good luck this season


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3892863 - 03/09/05 03:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i dont see any of the pics
it doesnt load up correctly for me

i have no record of G. spectabilis ever being found in Florida.

Gymnopilus are difficult to ID, also,

keep shroomin
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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #3894462 - 03/09/05 09:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

try again it should work! internet has been screwed up i think...

http://www.geocities.com/tampabayfinearts/shroomerypics.html

I think they're probably a strain--- they're not liquirtae tho


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3902902 - 03/11/05 02:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

well they are definately a type of Gymnopilus,
with a persistant veil,
probably not a psychoactive species,

no noticeable bluing or greening,

and i dont have my Gymnopilus monograph with me right now
so i couldnt say too much more about your find w/o it

it also helps to know what type of wood they were growing from

spectabilis grows directly from tree stumps,
but i dont think yours look like spectabilis anyways

sorry i cant help much more than that without the monograph


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #3957606 - 03/23/05 03:07 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

the use of the characteristic "persistent veil" is overrated and too broad for narrowing down accurately the Gymnopilus. microscopy verification is needed for for 100%. I have found what I can only and will only key to G.spectabilis in Florida except without definite persistant veil remnants when I was making an id, due to what I believe was caused by extremely hard percipitation from above and from below ricocheting off the stump they were growing. There hasn't been enough of Gymnopilus documentation and overall research to all of the Gymnopilus o rely with a trusting certainty of gyms without a microscope. And even spore characteristics patterns are limited and not near standardized enough.. Gyms with more. Personally I think that there is alot more species.var of gyms that have been id and classified as something they are not, because of characteristics that are too broad for a species with so closely related branches for an under studied mushroom as such.


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: motaman]
    #3960133 - 03/23/05 04:54 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

good point, many gyms look so similar it is damn near impossible to accurately ID without some hard evidence (or a bioassay).


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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #3960226 - 03/23/05 05:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you both for the input. Once again if you know the name of that monograph I am completely dumb about what it's called. Thanks and my truthful honest guess is that there are TOXIC to some degree.

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Re: Cosmicsea ID of possiblie Floridian Big Laughing Gyms [Re: cosmicsea]
    #3960250 - 03/23/05 05:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

There is one for north american species, written by L.R. Hesler.
I tried to order a copy on amazon but they canceled my order because it was unavailable.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...nce&s=books


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