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OfflineAnOddLittlePlace
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contams =/
    #3840568 - 02/27/05 11:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

day 9, 1 of ten jars contracted mean green. Did my best to save the cake but it probably wont make.

I always wear gloves and a mask and wash my arms before i inspect the jars in the incubator each day. 3 of the 10 jars were steamed instead of pced ( didn't have a big enough PC or time to PC them) i forgot which ones they were though. During inoculation i flame sterilized and then wiped with a swab every three jars. DO you think i contracted my contams in one of the steamed jar and tops ill lose 3 jars or it was isolated incident OR DO you think all my jars are possibly screwed?

thanks, I'm distraught, you have a nice day though


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Re: contams =/ [Re: AnOddLittlePlace]
    #3840583 - 02/27/05 11:24 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Your steam sterilization is the culprit. It's not necessary by the way, to handle jars with mask/gloves, etc.. It's all about getting them properly sterilized in the pressure cooker. I have incubated mine in the past in pretty dirty conditions, never cleaning up to handle them. Why bother? They are sterilized, and self contained. Nothing you do externally makes a difference with sterilized jars except for at inoculation time.


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Re: contams =/ [Re: AnOddLittlePlace]
    #3840585 - 02/27/05 11:26 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

There's no way of answering that question. Its completely hypothetical. But you should throw out the con-tamed jar. No point in risking the jars that aren't con-tamed. Be more complete in your process. If you do something different in your process to a few jars label those jars immediately. The more scientific you get with this hobby the easier it is to figure out what went wrong. I hope your others do not con-tam.


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Re: contams =/ [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3840593 - 02/27/05 11:29 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yah figured it was the steaming, and good suggestions diver but im obsessive about sterility (funny i went ahead and steamed some then isnt it?)

Hawks your right on the money about labeling them, i meant to...oh well

I knew i wouldnt get a definite answer, just thought id blabber about it because its on my mind and see what you guys could come up with ...thanks everyone =)


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Re: contams =/ [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3840597 - 02/27/05 11:31 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

There's no need to just throw your jars out. Just PC them and then clean them out. Dust masks come in handy when handling contaminated jars also. I definately would not want to get a lungful of spores out of a contamed jar.


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Re: contams =/ [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #3840709 - 02/27/05 12:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Do you know that fuckknuckle wore a dust mask while emptying contamed jars and is now seriously ill. I say if your worried about wasting the jars. Open them inside of a garbage bag, outside of your house. But def. get them out of where the other jars are.


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Re: contams =/ [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3841939 - 02/27/05 05:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You only got 1 out of 10 contamed and your worried? I fear for you. Contams are normal man, get paranoid now and your gonna have one hell of a time when you start doing more jars.

Always remove the contamed jar from your house completly. You cant save it. Its dead to the world. PC it before opening or inject with bleach to help kill things. Wear a dust mask and do it outside in a bag and be carefull. You can still get them spores from around the edges of the mask. Even better is to just toss the jar without opening it. The more the contams are in your house, the more at risk your grow is. Do your best to avoid them, but contams will happen. When they do, take care of them promptly and you wont have many problems in the way of contams.


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Re: contams =/ [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3842310 - 02/27/05 06:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

1 out 10 is great

I fill with 50% bleach/50% water and soak 24 hours in soapy water.
Then down the disposal.So far no spores have flown.

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Re: contams =/ [Re: KaptKid]
    #3843216 - 02/27/05 09:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

eek 5 out of 10 now, hoping the 5 that are contamed are the 5 that i steamed... think i could try and cut the different chunks out of the 5 jars on the sides that arent contamed and kinda do some silly small casing for the fun of it ?


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Re: contams =/ [Re: AnOddLittlePlace]
    #3845481 - 02/28/05 06:09 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

NO!!!! Thats what we've been trying to tell you. Get the jars the fuck out of your house. All your doing is exposing your cultivation environment to more mold spores. Dont do it dude.


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Re: contams =/ [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3845521 - 02/28/05 06:55 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I thought you said you only steamed 3, and just get rid of those contammed fuckers man, you can always try again...


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Re: contams =/ [Re: bixo]
    #3845577 - 02/28/05 08:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

uh oh, conflicting information.


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Re: contams =/ [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3845838 - 02/28/05 10:56 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

alright thanks all, and when i first said 3 i thought it was 3...then remembered we used a bigger steamer we found and it was 5 but whatever...as long as i get one uncontammed cake and and some spores for a new syringe...its all part of my learning process...no biggy


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