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The Physical Aspect of Spirituality
    #3840275 - 02/27/05 07:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Would you say that the human body's characteristics are partly determined by the mind/spirit/soul?

I'd say that the face of a man who is passionately in search of Truth is not only more "spiritual" than the face of a man who lacks intelligence, but it is also more intensely and authentically defined, it is more genuinely "body".

There is not only more spirituality in the atittude of a great-hearted man than in the one of a selfish brute, there is also a more full-blown body that is more brightened up, with more of a beaming face. The body itself becomes more animated, more vibrant since it is strongly influenced by the life of the heart, of the intelligence, and of the spirit.


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: exclusive58]
    #3840363 - 02/27/05 08:37 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I think there is a huge connection... after all, the body is part of us, and we are a whole.

When one experiences mental pressure, it is manifested physically as tension. When one is capable of changing the criteria that cause their mental pressure, they reduce physical tension as well.

Another interesting note... I've recently realized that the Chakra system (Which is most commonly presented, with new age terminology, as a "series of energy centers" along the spine) is actually a metaphorical description of physical balance.

In order to be physically balanced, we need our spine to hold us up equally along the length of it... if it does not, we end up using other core muscles in the torso to hold up our weight, resulting in a labored form of breathing. (Usually the shoulders pull up, and the chest expands in breath--when it should be relaxed shoulders with breathing expanding the back and ribcage.)

This is all a theory I'm putting together in my own head, so if anyone objects, tough cookies. :smile:


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3840993 - 02/27/05 01:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think the way you breathe affects your physiology much, i have read somewhere though that when you breathe with your stomach rather than with your ribcage, it helps your digestion.

And its also been proven that meditation improves health by lowering blood pressure and body metabolism.

But these are physiological effects of one's spirituality on the body, what i'm talking about is physical effects. How would you think that reaching a spiritual balance or "physical balance" that you mentioned could affect the physical aspect of a person?


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: exclusive58]
    #3841644 - 02/27/05 04:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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There is not only more spirituality in the atittude of a great-hearted man than in the one of a selfish brute, there is also a more full-blown body that is more brightened up, with more of a beaming face. The body itself becomes more animated, more vibrant since it is strongly influenced by the life of the heart, of the intelligence, and of the spirit.




And in CHOICE of INTENT, (in influence)....    A "selfish-brute" is not truly Spiritual, hence the word "selfish".... 

Perhaps one can have Life, a huge Heart, Intelligence, Spirit, and True Intents, and still not be truly spiritual....    For I have found that true Spirituality is (found), and being true to that Spirituality is what conquers selfishness, and bruteness -as it were....   


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #3843974 - 02/27/05 11:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

huge heart + intelligence + spirit most likely = spirituality


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: exclusive58]
    #3844005 - 02/27/05 11:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Respect for our body and it's health is integral to any legitimate spiritual discipline.


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3844091 - 02/27/05 11:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Honestly, if it is a part of reality, it is physical. Anything labelled as Spiritual that exsists, exsists in some physical sence one way or annother. What I am saying is there is no such thing as spirituality, that spiritual reality is the same as physical reality.


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: MAGnum]
    #3845258 - 02/28/05 03:44 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Honestly, if it is a part of reality, it is physical.

what about Albert Einstein? He was physical, but no longer is... and yet he is still part of reality today.

how bout emotions, like Fear or Wistfulness?

how about disembodied ideas or concepts, like Below, or Hierarchical, or Three, or Comparison?

how about memories?

what about gravity? magnetism?

what about my soul, which may or may not actually exist in reality (but the idea of it certainly does)?

what about God?


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3853166 - 03/01/05 06:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

someone was talking about chakras and shit, too lazy (read: stoned) to scroll up and find out. Centuries upon centuries ago, advanced yogis came up with a system of (I think about) 3,000 + energy pathways in the body. Turns out, they correlate extremely well with western nervous system studies and shit. It's the good shit man.

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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: exclusive58]
    #3853560 - 03/01/05 07:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

no, i wouldn't say so.
How a person behaves is not part of their physical features and is largely something in *your* ( not you specifically .. ) head alone..

Furthermore, a point where you are 100% wrong is people who have had serious damage done to their face and cannot control any of the muscles.


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: MAGnum]
    #3853586 - 03/01/05 07:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I would agree that the spiritual reality encompasses the physical reality...


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3855820 - 03/02/05 06:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

human body and psyche are VEEEERRRRRYYY realeted...

your body express your mental atitudes,fears,your character...

read Wilhelm Reich-character analysis,
Alexander Loven-bioenergetics-these books changed my life...
and my view on life...


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Re: The Physical Aspect of Spirituality [Re: petrucci1]
    #3855929 - 03/02/05 07:48 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I've always wondered:

Does the way you look shape who you are
or
Does who you are shape the way you look?

I think the answer is, probably a bit of both


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