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Offlinebhamlaxy
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Ecstacy
    #3839810 - 02/27/05 02:42 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

is most of the stuff you hear in health class exxagerated, about you overheating. Im thinking about taking it, should i have ice water? and how many pills should i take?


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: bhamlaxy]
    #3839816 - 02/27/05 02:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Ecstacy [Re: bhamlaxy]
    #3840635 - 02/27/05 11:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

A lot of drug education material is exagerated. For example, MDMA very, very rarely produces holes in the brain. However, it can put you at risk of overheating and becoming dehydrated, which is why it's recommended to drink lots.


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: dblaney]
    #3841185 - 02/27/05 02:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You know, I've never met anyone who forgot to drink water while rolling. We were always so thirsty from dancing or whatever that we rarely put the water down. It makes me wonder what the fuck those people are doing that actually do overheat.


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #3841249 - 02/27/05 02:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Don't drink too much water because too much water mixed with E CAN kill you and it's happened before

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Re: Ecstacy [Re: Cenebite]
    #3841353 - 02/27/05 03:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, when I say a substance is safer than water, it's no joke, drinking too much water can have serious consequences.

I am not saying MDMA is safer than water.


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: gdman]
    #3841392 - 02/27/05 03:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Don't believe everything you hear, IMO most deaths caused by E, could have been avoided if they knew what they were doing and used responsibly. Just do some in depth research and you should be fine, not saying its a safe drug, but if you know what your doing the dangers are greatly reduced  :thumbup:

Give me an E, an ill pop it anywhere, anytime!

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Getting sentimental as fuck spillin' guts to you
We just met
But I think I'm in love with you
But you're on it too
So you tell me you love me too
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Re: Ecstacy [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #3841460 - 02/27/05 03:41 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

so how much water is good? im under the impression that you should drink water, but not drink a fuckload.


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: bhamlaxy]
    #3841474 - 02/27/05 03:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Drinking a sports drink such as Gatorade would be ideal, because it replaces electrolites along with hydrating you.


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: bhamlaxy]
    #3841552 - 02/27/05 04:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Get some gatorade and mix it with a little glob of vicks vapo rub!!!!


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: dblaney]
    #3842875 - 02/27/05 08:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

dblaney18 said:
A lot of drug education material is exagerated. For example, MDMA very, very rarely produces holes in the brain. However, it can put you at risk of overheating and becoming dehydrated, which is why it's recommended to drink lots.




Actually MDMA can't put holes in the brain.  That postcard image was misleading, they used statistical thresholds to make variations in SERTs from person to person appear as holes.  Just a bunch of BS. 

Just eat your vitamins, drink a normal amount of water, and you'll be fine.

oh and watch this:  Peter Jennings: Ecstasy Rising

have fun :laugh:


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: Noviseer]
    #3842884 - 02/27/05 08:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Right the brain scans show areas of less activity as blank areas, so it's misleading. Your chemistry should return to normal.


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: Noviseer]
    #3842913 - 02/27/05 08:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yes I suppose I shouldn't have said rarely puts holes in your brain. It never puts holes in your brain. As you said, those images were taken from the extremes of the control group and the experimental group in Ricaurte's study. They in fact marked decreased activity, not actual "holes" or lesions. And as gdman says, they generally do return to normal over time, especially with the help of the appropriate amino acids.


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But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Re: Ecstacy [Re: dblaney]
    #3843686 - 02/27/05 10:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

dblaney18 said:
Drinking a sports drink such as Gatorade would be ideal, because it replaces electrolites along with hydrating you.




Ive read thats good. Ive done some reading, but nothing really notes what the right amount is, will 2 medium sized glasses of water be fine? or would i need more? Am i oversimplifying this, should i just drink water as i feel necessary? and would a normal sized bottle of gatorade be fine for the whole trip, or should i have more? thanks, i just want to be perfectly sure before i try x. It seems to be riskier then other drugs.


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: bhamlaxy]
    #3844173 - 02/27/05 11:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, your worrying to much. If your thirsty, drink some. If your not, don't. My friends and I have done both extremes. We were used to running alot so we drank alot. We probably would drink up to 2 gallons in a night. I highly doubt most people can do that without getting a tummy ache. You'll be fine. I know of only one instance were people didn't have a good time and feel great. That was when the imfamous Green Triangles were floating around. Turns out they were made from cough medicine. Just talk to someone who's takin what your takin and you'll be great. Have fun man, I'm freaking jealous.


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Re: Ecstacy [Re: bhamlaxy]
    #3845835 - 02/28/05 10:55 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Better safe than sorry, but don't worry too much about it, otherwise you'll miss out on a lot of the enjoyment. Ecstasy is an incredible tool when used properly. Someday I hope to be able to try it out. But for now...enjoy it!


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But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Re: Ecstacy [Re: dblaney]
    #3845919 - 02/28/05 11:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Just try not to drink much more than a pint per hour mate. When you drink, drink in small sips to quench your thirst, don't just glug shitloads of it down, and you'll be fine. Trust me on this one, it's a field i've had a lot of experience in :o)

Have fun! (you will...)


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Re: Ecstacy/info websites [Re: Dfekt]
    #3846040 - 02/28/05 12:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Ecstacy/info websites [Re: gnrm23]
    #3847836 - 02/28/05 06:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

gnrm23 said:
www.dancesafe.org
www.bluelight.nu
www.maps.org
www.erowid.org
etc...




All of those are *excellent* sites for people interested in MDMA...I myself haven't gotten around to trying MDMA because of my SSRI. As soon as I come off i'll try it. I've been reading my shit and talking to as many users that I know. All of those websites have helped me out a great deal.

As for the water thing, I used to be a competative amature bodybuilder, and I'd drink a gallon of water every day--standard. You have to piss like nuts for the first few days, but then your bladder stretches and you can hold more urine.

I'd say if your going out for the night and plan on trippin balls on E, two of those 32oz powerades should be PLENTY of fluids. There is no way that much powerade can do you any harm, and it's still a fuckload of fluid. You might notice some weight loss a day or two later from flushing yourself with so much water, your body tends to let more go than what you drank..lol.

Also, the sports drinks have special *kinds* of sodium and potassium (called electrolytes), that are lost durring perspiration and exertion. Plain water is good, but can't replace those...

I plan on puting 64oz of powerade (maybe mix some interesting colors together) in a camelback hydration gimmick. I probably won't be "in da club", but at a party or somneone's house. This way I'll never "loose" my fluid since it's on my back..lol. If I'm so fucked up that im having a great time on MDMA, I might set my liquids down and forget where I put them. (and besides, im such a pothead my memory's shot :rasta:)


Edited by MystikMushroom (02/28/05 06:47 PM)


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Re: Ecstacy/info websites [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #3852995 - 03/01/05 05:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ecstasy is great dude. Don't worry about it as much. I was worried about doing it my first time (3 weeks ago) and now I love it! I've rolled like 6 times in 3 weeks though....Yellow Kangaroos, Blue Oakleys, Blue monkeys. Just have water with you and have fun.


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