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Help with growing... ran into a problem
    #3837892 - 02/26/05 06:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

the terrairium (terr.) doesn't have enough room for 12 jars...(got the best one my area is limited i'm in the boonie's) so what I was thinking of is growing it in something like:  http://www.shroomery.org/images/3381/23983.jpg  (the container) instead of jars.. well do a couple jars and a big container. Thing is I need to find a site or something that has the instuctions to do it using Vermiculite and Brown Rice. Sorry forry the n00by question, it's just my time is extremly short and I need a solultion one and this is my best one. Please, thank for your help!

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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3837965 - 02/26/05 06:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What you're talking about is doing casings. Look under the FAQ for a layout of how to do this.


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3837983 - 02/26/05 06:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i'm assuming your jars are colonized and your wanting to fruit? if thats the case then why not just go to kmart or something and buy some kind of small shelf kind of deal, or better yet just make something. and if they arent colonized and your just incubating then just stack the jars on top of each other. the link is a picture of a casing from some already colonized substrate, and those would probly take up more room than jars would....it would probly be easier to help if you would have specified if you are wanting to fruit or just incubate...


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #3838028 - 02/26/05 06:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No, I'm about to get ready to do Inoculation, and I want to do it in a big container, not just 1/2 jars..


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3838095 - 02/26/05 07:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

OK! Now I'm really freaking confused! Do I first start it all in the jars, then one it's done Mycelial growing. I put it in a bigger container, that's casing? Sorry I'm trying to understand this!


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3838100 - 02/26/05 07:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

1/2 pint jars are just about ideal for the BRF+verm combination. You get much bigger than that and you'll notice that your colonization will slow down more and more. If you want to use bigger containers, you should be using a different substrate. Most people will suggest grains. Rye works wonders.


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3838109 - 02/26/05 07:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i wouldn't reccomend that. i've tried so many times to sterilze substrate in plastic containers like that and its hard. the only way i've been able to succesfully do it is by using these small plastic gerber containers that i found in my parents cabinet. i mean they are like 1/4 pint. they have their advantages though, they are small therefore colonize very fast and if you have alot of them u can take 4-5 of them and make a decent sized casing, but anyways if you don't melt the containers which is hard not to do, then you will probly get contams. if you do happen to find some of those small containers like i was talking about though they are nice to use, i usually microwave them for 1 min and let cool for a few then nuke it again for another min and that does the trick for me. oh and make sure when you put the lid on that you somehow compensate for all the steam pressure that builds up in them, even if you have pre made holes for injecting spores that usualy isn't good enough so i just barely crack one corner of the container, and as soon as its done in the microwave open the door and close it real quick..anyways i'm done rambeling now.


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #3838124 - 02/26/05 07:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah.  Sterilize the jars, inoculate them with spores, let them sit in an incubating chamber until they're colonized with mycelium, prepare a casing layer (verm+coco coir works well), break up your colonized substrate and put it in your casing tray (the dimensions of this are up to you), cover with casing material...put it back in the incubator for 3-7 days...then stick it in the fruiting chamber.

So yeah, little jar into big container when little jar is completely white.  Then cover with casing.

There's much reading to be done.  Head to the FAQs for a few weeks.  :grin:


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #3838125 - 02/26/05 07:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Alright, I'll get Rye then, I just need a place so I can read up on this, see what I have to do. Have any sites with good directions?


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: fallingaway24]
    #3838135 - 02/26/05 07:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You can put any plastic container with a recycling number of 5 into a pressure cooker, without having to worry about it melting. Don't put it on the bottom of the PC without a rack, though.

There's a thread that Magash started a long time ago that is circulating again. Check it out if you're interested in going the plastic route.


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3838142 - 02/26/05 07:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Start here:
Shroomery's Cultivation FAQ

Read everything.  Forty times.  :grin:


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3838150 - 02/26/05 07:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

1) I'm use a three-piece vegetable steamer for Sterilizing. This is what I want to do, do a couple of 1/2 pint jars of BRF & Verm. and a big container. I was thinking about a 6 quart container. I just fill it up with the rye and whatever it needs then let the mycelium grow, and open it up and start fruiting?


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3838164 - 02/26/05 07:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Single quart jars are standard use for rye. Some people do use half gallon jars though.

Yeah, you have the jist of it. Unfortunately having the jist of it usually isn't quite enough in this hobby. You should follow that link I gave you to decide on a particular growing tek...then follow the instructions EXACTLY.


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3838171 - 02/26/05 07:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yep, so what I'm doing is Casing?


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: Cray]
    #3838189 - 02/26/05 07:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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1) I'm use a three-piece vegetable steamer for Sterilizing. This is what I want to do, do a couple of 1/2 pint jars of BRF & Verm. and a big container. I was thinking about a 6 quart container. I just fill it up with the rye and whatever it needs then let the mycelium grow, and open it up and start fruiting?




What you outline here is not casing.

Go to the link I sent you and these questions are all easily answered if you do a little searching.


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #3838285 - 02/26/05 07:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

and how exactly do you plan on sterilizing a 6 qt plastic container?


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: fallingaway24]
    #3838302 - 02/26/05 07:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

nm a vegi steamer..... do you think you can pull off sterilizing something that size with that equipment?


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: fallingaway24]
    #3838327 - 02/26/05 07:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

well if your using rye youll need a pressure cooker. not a vegtable steamer.


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: EdRosarioKid]
    #3838380 - 02/26/05 08:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ppl have had success with steamers but the whole concept is to force steam by "pressure" into the jars to kill off all unwanted things, and a vegi steamer is just a mini sauna.


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Re: Help with growing... ran into a problem [Re: fallingaway24]
    #3838521 - 02/26/05 08:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Uhh...falling, PC's dont kill endospores with pressure, the built up pressure causes excessive heat, i.e 15psi is quite a bit hotter than 212F

Endospores don't die b/c of pressure :lol:, the heat kills them after you let them germinate (soak)

Or maybe i read what you said incorrectly?

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