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    #3837525 - 02/26/05 04:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

so i've been hearing all this stuff about passion flower lately.... and enhancing a :mushroom2: ... does anyone have info on this? i have powdered passion flower, and dried passion flower laying around the house, and was wondering how much you would have to take to notice any alterations.... could it be eaten straight for the same effects? or does it have to be made into a tea or something?


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Re: passion flower [Re: Phychotron]
    #3839585 - 02/27/05 01:24 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

All I know is that you need a lot - like 50 grams or so- for maoi inhibition.
It's got nice flowers, though


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Re: passion flower [Re: ToolTroll]
    #3840218 - 02/27/05 06:39 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It actually requires alot less smoked passion flower than youd think to alter the effects. Use a vaporizor or a bong and a bowl of passion flower would be good enough for like two poeple on shrooms.
I think people think that it takes a lot of it to make shroom trips alter because it takes so much to get any effects when youre sober.


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Re: passion flower [Re: Veter]
    #3845627 - 02/28/05 08:58 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

many Passiflora species have harmine & harmaline in them...
but the amounts are farily low...
like ~ 0.1% (or even less) alkaloids (dry foliage)...


compare:
caapi vine ~ 0.5% alkaloids
syrian rue roots ~ 1-2% alkaloids
syrian rue seeds ~ 3-7 % alkaloids

(& sometimes the alkaloids include things besides betacaboline MAOIs, & there are things other than alkaloids in some of these plants as well... do your homework...)

(& if you figure ORAL dosing of harmine/harmaline/THH for full MAOi needs something like 150 - 200 mg or so... (& like 1/3 of that smoked) - shucks, you do the math...)

if you go to the bother of isolating the crude alkaliids, purifying them, and prepping them into a freebase form, you may find that (if you are already tripping) less than 10 milligrams pure harmine/harmaline f.b. smoked will ummmm "get yr attention", & 40 mg will kick yr trip up to another level somehow, hehheh...)

there's some discussion of this archived over @ erowid (see: gracie & zarkov) as well as nunerious discussion of this very subject right here @ the shroomery (as in UTFSE bub)...)

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Re: passion flower [Re: gnrm23]
    #3850708 - 03/01/05 06:11 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

alright, thanks. I wouldn't smoke it, but i figure i can make a tea out of it, and see how it affects my next trip...


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Re: passion flower [Re: Phychotron]
    #3850875 - 03/01/05 08:15 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

with some of these alkaloids that may be found in the seeds, the "active dose' may be less than 10 mg (harmalol, 10-methoxy-harmalan, i dunno there's a buncch of 'em) & they are reputed to be "synegistically potentiating" with each other (as well as with many other drugs, some of which are NOT mono-amine type chemicals/plants, like THC or salvinorin-A)...
& the harmaline-type chemmies can be "stony" even on their own (some of 'em more stimulating or even potential convulsants, some more sedating, etc.)
passionflower herb may have tiny amounts og "cyanogenic" compounds in them, & a good extraction should leave most of that crud behind...
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