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Sinbad said:
Notions of an external God, are like turning God into an imaginary friend for grown-ups.
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Work on your relationship with you and your relationship with God will take care of itself.
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Once 'you' know 'you', then your attention begins to focus soley on others, thats when progress can be made, thats when God becomes manifest as you.
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Surrendering to an external saviour is like surrendering your capcity to know God. Their is no need to surrender anything, as the notion of an external God is just another limiting concept to overcome. Go beyond your limitations, God lies beyond concept.

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Never was it external until you suggested it....      Distinction for you to find otherwise, as a challenge from me to you.... 


I AM....
(GOD)
ME

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Sinbad said:
"Those who know dont say, thats God's mysterious way"

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Hhhhhhmmmmm....    Those that know would not be ashamed or afraid to proclaim that knowledge, as knowledge is a gift to be shared....  As mysterious as it may be....


I AM....
(GOD)
Within ME....
Without ME....

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Sinbad said:
There is no shame, but if one grasps at God, he slips through ones fingers like a wet bar of soap and become just another manifestation of ego, whereby you proudly proclaim to have discovered God, when in fact as soon as 'you' were involved, God had already left the building  .
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Show the way but never proclaim to be at the destination. Remember  your beginners mind is essential always.
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Those who know dont say, but only point the way, and thats Gods mysterious way.

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The only grasp would be that of a warm embrace, but as the notion is seemingly unphysical....  The existance of that friend was still acknowledged from within, and embraced just as strongly as anything physical.... 

How could I NOT proclaim to be at a destination that resides within myself....?    As I would most definately suggest to any eager beginner mind to search from within  ---- and ask to be shown the way, then TRULY pay attention for those signs that may or may not come....  It is up to your intents as to what you would find once you discover what it is you are looking for.... 

Where else would you presume to begin a search for the truth besides from within....?   


I AM....
(GOD)
Within, Without, ME





You sure *seem* to be *trying* to "zip my zing".....! 
But the good thing about that is, while I effortlessly walk on my toes,
my head is breathing this newfound fresh air amongst the clouds.... 

:::::Deeeeeep  Breeeeeath::::::

<<COUGH>>   

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Sinbad said:
At the destination, one realizes that even the destination was an illusion, we were always at the beginning and never left.
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The true wisdom of God, is that in each step of the way we reach the other shore, but the other shore is where we have always been.
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We never left.
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Proclaimation is just the ego grasping or 'embracing' the experience. there is nothing to embrace, nothing to grasp.

Everyone is looking for the same thing, Happiness. That is found in letting go, not proclaimation. Acceptance is a healthy tool up until a point where even that limitation has to be overcome, becuase it is still conceptual.

There is no truth other than this naked present moment.

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I agreed 100%, down to the line I have drawn....^ ^ ***** ^ ^.....  I have been naked and egoless thru this entire journey tonight - again to which I challenge you to find where I have displayed an ounce or speckle of ego within any of my words.... 

And as I must again state, I was searching for truth to which that light was shown....  There was no "grasping", there was clarity to see the truth - not knowing what that truth actually was till I did accept to see it for exactly what it was....    Naked....

I AM this naked moment, as truth is naked....   


I AM....
(GOD)

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Sinbad said:
All of your last post wreaked of ego! Stunk to the high heavens of egocentricity. Why challenge me to do anything? That in itself is a manifestation of ego. 

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Challenging you to find proof in your statements is not egocentric....  But I *think* we are miscommunicating on the "I AM.... (GOD)" actual meaning....  And I ask.....?