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InvisibleTODAY
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My idea for fast colinization (bulk)
    #3833212 - 02/25/05 03:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

here goes...

1) pasturize substrate in an oven bag.
2) let cool.
3) add spawn and mix inside the oven bag.
4) tie off oven bag with substrate and spawn inside.
5) when 100% colonized just pull the substrate out and spread it evenly in you growing chamber.

This way you won't have to open the lid of your bin to check the progress of the colonization, you can just look from the outside of the closed oven bag.

also, you can put these bags in a bin or something and add water and an aquarium heater to heat up the water (it gets cold here at night).  to further speed colonization you could crumble the bag and mix it from the outside.

g'head and try it!!  :grin:


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: TODAY]
    #3833219 - 02/25/05 03:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

how will it get air? scatmanrav had a tek on how to create a filter for your oven bag with polyfill


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: TODAY]
    #3833228 - 02/25/05 03:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

do the oven bags have a patch on them for air exchange? if they do not it would take at least several days for it to fully colinize the bag contents and the lack of fresh air in the bag could allow contams to get a foothold IMO


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: SamhainJ]
    #3833236 - 02/25/05 03:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i don't think you need air exchange...i don't give my wbs jars any air exchange and they do fine. i also don't know why stagnant air would present a hazard for mold growth b/c air exchange would be just as big of a problem or more.

the main reason for this method i though up was so the bags could be easilly placed in a bin with heated water from an aquarium pump to speed colonization...currently my temps w/o heating are 60s and there's no way to remedy that in my situation unless the heat is blasting 24/7.


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Edited by TODAY (02/25/05 03:22 PM)


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: TODAY]
    #3833253 - 02/25/05 03:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

molds thrive on stagnant air, when you have substrate in a jar you have foil or something over the lids and this still allows co2 and whatnot to escape. if the bag is tied shut gases cannot escape.


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: TODAY]
    #3833262 - 02/25/05 03:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

if they don't need air then what is the purpose of using tyvek, coffee filters, or polyfill


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: Damn_Skippy]
    #3833267 - 02/25/05 03:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: Damn_Skippy]
    #3833281 - 02/25/05 03:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

allright, i'm more clear now...still though, if a polyfill filter were placed so the bag could get air exchange, my method would work very well. thanks a ton for the link!!


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: TODAY]
    #3833287 - 02/25/05 03:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

no worries..


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: Damn_Skippy]
    #3833802 - 02/25/05 06:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Instead of oven bag you could get an autoclavable bag with filter patch. http://www.mycosupply.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=SBFP01


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Re: My idea for fast colinization (bulk) [Re: mxdrk]
    #3834290 - 02/25/05 08:39 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I refuse to buy anything purposely made for growing fungus...takes part of the fun outta it


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