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Offlinelonestar2004
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Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says.
    #3832964 - 02/25/05 02:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

A consumer group Sued the Federal Government Thursday, saying Salt is killing tens of thousands of Americans and regulaters have done too little to control salt.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N24233569.htm


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3832974 - 02/25/05 02:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

This is the DEA!!! put down the salt shaker!


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3833011 - 02/25/05 02:32 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I already swore at the idiot on T.V. about this yesterday... my wife (again) informed me that the people on the T.V. can't hear me.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #3833126 - 02/25/05 02:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Salt is harmless.
Salt is necessary.
Salt is not killing the masses, un-nutritional diets and lack of physical activity are along with poor hydration habits.
Only in America would a group sue the government over this.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3833197 - 02/25/05 03:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I assure you that water has killed more people than salt has. I say we ban all water!!! Unless ofcourse the salt in the water is killing people....hmmmmmmm just to be safe lets ban them both.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3833213 - 02/25/05 03:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Wow, America has issues.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #3833234 - 02/25/05 03:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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my wife (again) informed me that the people on the T.V. can't hear me




you need HD tv then, they all hear me.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3833294 - 02/25/05 03:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Mr Government Please Save Me From Myself


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3833302 - 02/25/05 03:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I thought liberals needed the government to tell them how to live? hmm


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: California]
    #3833397 - 02/25/05 04:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Oregon said:

Salt is not killing the masses, un-nutritional diets and lack of physical activity are along with poor hydration habits.





Indeed. And READING THE LABEL sometimes wouldn't hurt either.....


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: California]
    #3833496 - 02/25/05 05:02 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Salt is not harmless in excess.

But I agree, government trying to micro-manage diets through legislation is not going make people live healthy lives. Clear and accurate labeling is all that is required for those than want to.


Edited by psilomonkey (02/25/05 05:38 PM)


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3833904 - 02/25/05 06:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Let's just do like the Romans did and leave all the weak or undesirable babies outside to die. Then we can build a country of great people with super power digestive systems.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3834792 - 02/25/05 10:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

high fructose corn syrup is more dangerous than salt IMO..but one cup of Cambells soup does provide over half your daily requirement for sodium, i dont think theres a need for that much salt.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: MrBump]
    #3835010 - 02/25/05 11:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Considering a primary source of Chloride is salt, which happens to be a major anion of intracellular fluid, it would be quite stupid to regulate this stuff.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3838159 - 02/26/05 07:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Salt is not harmless in excess.






And excess is a very relative term. I remember, a few years ago when I visited Scotland. An infant had somehow overdosed on salt. It doesn't take much salt for the very young.

But this is stupid. Another group of dependent Americans crying for the government to run their lives. Big surprise. If you actually talk to people over30 you'll figure out you are surrounded and vastly outnumbered by these idiots.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3839983 - 02/27/05 03:47 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
Quote:

Oregon said:

Salt is not killing the masses, un-nutritional diets and lack of physical activity are along with poor hydration habits.





Indeed. And READING THE LABEL sometimes wouldn't hurt either.....






I agree with both statements, but if you are on a low sodium diet (due to high blood pressure etc..) finding food products with low amounts of sodium is hard to do.

Thier is a lot more salt in food than is needed. Many of them could me made w/o salt. The salt is not nesecary.

This is no different than trying to reduce the amount of fat in foods.


Is a law suit needed to fix this problem??? Only when the companies motivating force is $$$$, is a law suit needed. Threatning to take some of their $$$$ is the only thing these companies will respond to.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: niteowl]
    #3840001 - 02/27/05 04:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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niteowl said:
Is a law suit needed to fix this problem??? Only when the companies motivating force is $$$$, is a law suit needed. Threatning to take some of their $$$$ is the only thing these companies will respond to.



I agree. I am on a low sodium diet now and I take $$ away from the people who produce foods with high salt content. I do it by not buying their food. It is not hard to avoid eating too much salt.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3840720 - 02/27/05 12:19 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I thought liberals needed the government to tell them how to live? hmm




Unless "liberal" has a completely different meaning state-side, that's a complete bastardisation of a liberal political idealogy. Liberals believe in being liberal, i.e letting people do what they like within certain limits. Government imposition of values is a conservative value, not a liberal one.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: OJK]
    #3845738 - 02/28/05 10:15 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Unless "liberal" has a completely different meaning state-side,




Liberals in the US believe in more government involvement, more government programs and tend not to believe in Idividual responsibility and rights. That's until it affects their lives and then they are against it. They are living contradictions.


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Re: Salt should be a REGULATED food additive, group says. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3845869 - 02/28/05 11:07 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
Quote:

Unless "liberal" has a completely different meaning state-side,




Liberals in the US believe in more government involvement, more government programs and tend not to believe in Idividual responsibility and rights. That's until it affects their lives and then they are against it. They are living contradictions.





Conservatives are just as much for big government and government involvement in citizens lives as liberals are.

First point, big government:
Total federal spending has risen continuously since 1960, regardless of congressional leadership:
http://www.heritage.org/research/features/budgetchartbook/charts_S/s1.cfm

Conservatives may say that they're interested in a smaller government, but the politicians they elect increase the size of government just as fast as Democrats do.


Second point, government involvement in private affairs:
Abortion, sexual and indecency laws; conservatives tend to be "tough on crime and drugs" (not that liberals aren't, just that conservatives tend to be more extreme), etc. etc.


So, your statment would be no less accurate if you left it exactly the same but substituted "conservative" for "liberal".


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