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OfflineNebuls
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Preparing jars a week ahead of time
    #3832416 - 02/25/05 12:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was wondering if it is okay to prepare your jars early--up to a week or so--before they are inoculated. If so, should the water be added at the time of sterilization, or should the water be added right before inoculation? Also, if the water was added at the time of sterilization then contamination could be noted and the jar disposed of before introducing the spores.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Nebuls]
    #3832432 - 02/25/05 12:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If I was you I would read some more teks.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Nebuls]
    #3832433 - 02/25/05 12:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yes you can prepare them early

water should be added at the time of sterilization

you are more likely to weed out contams if you add the water at the time of sterilization. contams like water.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Nebuls]
    #3832435 - 02/25/05 12:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

you can make them and steralize them and wait a week and everything will be fine if thats what you mean


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Nebuls]
    #3832445 - 02/25/05 12:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Adding water at the time of inoculation, not a good idea, add at time of sterilization. You can make and sterilize your jars ahead of time. Just keep them somewhere cool dark and clean until time to inoculate. Keep the lids tight and the tape on too until time to inoculate, you don't want them too dry out any which is the only proplem leaving them sitting for any period of time.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Stratus]
    #3832514 - 02/25/05 12:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If you need a good beginners Tek try www.shroomwizard.com


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: PsiliPharmer]
    #3832527 - 02/25/05 12:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well I would try one of these http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23019


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Stratus]
    #3832746 - 02/25/05 01:44 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

After you PC them, dont add anything to the jars but a little bit of sporewater or some sort of mycelium culture.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: PsiliPharmer]
    #3832765 - 02/25/05 01:47 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

PsiliPharmer said:
If you need a good beginners Tek try www.shroomwizard.com




have you ever actualy read this guys site?

to learn the process, you have to buy a kit, a great deal of the info is a little
off base, he refers to mushrooms as plants and aparently caters to people
reading on a 6th grade level, a simple glance over his FAQ suggests that you'll
be doomed to failure in not time flat

http://www.shroomwizard.com/faq.html jump straight to question 6


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3832841 - 02/25/05 01:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Wow,

The green mold is from a foreign spore that has drifted into your tray from the air and taken root in your soil. About the easiest way to get rid of this foreign contaminate is to take a clean teaspoon and carefully remove (and discard) as much of the soil as possible that has the green mold growing on it, then replace what soil was removed with fresh premoistened soil. This usually gets rid of the contaminate but if any more shows up just repeat the process.

I didnt know all you had to do was spoon out the "dirt" with the green mold in it to get rid of it.  :rolleyes: :tongue2:

Following this guys advice will get you a whole hell of a lot of something. And quick. Mainly everything BUT mushrooms, but hey...


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3836890 - 02/26/05 02:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I cringe every time he refers to "plants" rather than a mycology term at shroomwizard.com. I wouldn't discount him completely. The honey in the water thing is interesting. I might try it. However, I am still sticking with the PF tek since it is my first time.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Nebuls]
    #3836926 - 02/26/05 02:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Honey tek and Karo tek along with many other liquid culture recipes are all here.

You can not partially discount someone. How do you know when to believe them and when not to? He has nothing worth looking at there since all of the things he talks about can be found here. And when you find them here they will be correct and more thorough that that BS. I discount him, and his website, COMPLETLY.

http://www.fungifun.org/pf/

Simple teks for the begineer WELL done.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3837020 - 02/26/05 02:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

So, is the soil casing thing complete tripe? Don't get me wrong. I have way more credence in shroomery.org. Oh, and fungifun.org is a good link.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Nebuls]
    #3837077 - 02/26/05 03:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If it means regular soil then yes. There are FAQ's here that cover all of this. Casings:

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/8
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/3288


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3837161 - 02/26/05 03:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, just follow the pf tek your first go around. Don't make your jars a week in advance unless you absolutely have to. That's just another week that contams have the opportunity to set in. You want to keep the window that contams have to set in as small as possible.

The absolute best advice I can give to a noob is to follow the tek's to the t until you understand mycology better.

Read and understand The Mushroom Cultivator and growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms. Then you can experiment with new and different methods with a greater chance of success.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3837496 - 02/26/05 04:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks. Will do.


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Re: Preparing jars a week ahead of time [Re: Nebuls]
    #3837550 - 02/26/05 04:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

once i had to wait a week before shooting my jars up with spores. they came out okay. good luck!


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