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wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? * 1
    #3831932 - 02/25/05 09:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

my brother seems to think so i dont wanny try it without some more research. thankis fro any feedback


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3831948 - 02/25/05 09:29 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you do know h2o2 is hydrogen peroxide right.(not being a smart ass just makeing sure you are informed) well it's perfectly safe (actually a lot of people use it) use i beleive 3%-4% by volume. that's 13 ounces of h2o2 to one gallon of water. hope this helps. :mushroom2:


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: thenewguy05]
    #3831981 - 02/25/05 09:39 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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you do know h2o2 is hydrogen peroxide right.(not being a smart ass just makeing sure you are informed) well it's perfectly safe (actually a lot of people use it) use i beleive 3%-4% by volume. that's 13 ounces of h2o2 to one gallon of water. hope this helps. :mushroom2:




13 ounces to a gallon is 10% H202 to water, and yeah this should work fine for you.


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3832008 - 02/25/05 09:46 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

HAHAHA you know what i'm thinking of. karo/honey & water is suppose to be 4% by volume. you right it's 1:10 thanx for noticeing. at least i got the gallon mix right.


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3832053 - 02/25/05 10:00 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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13 ounces to a gallon is 10% H202 to water



I was thinkin the same thing. Good thing he doesn't make up saline solution in the hospital.


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: Damn_Skippy]
    #3832081 - 02/25/05 10:09 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

There would be people all tweaked out all over the hospital. :lol:


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3832098 - 02/25/05 10:13 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

No it is not harmfull to myc unless you get all crazy and use it too often.
I think is overkill when folks mist with peroxidated water.
You only need to use it for water resivoirs for humidification systems and in perlite bowls. It helps prevent nasties from developing in these places, and a 20:1 ratio is just fine for that purpose. 20 parts water to 1 part peroxide i.e. 200mls water gets 10mls peroxide added to it .
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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3832125 - 02/25/05 10:25 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i totally agree with you on the misting with h2o2. totally unnecessary.


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: thenewguy05]
    #3832134 - 02/25/05 10:29 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah if worried about it , I say just use sterilized distilled water.


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3832224 - 02/25/05 10:57 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thanks all


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #3832652 - 02/25/05 01:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I always put a small splash in my mister. Its like 1:20 ratio. It puts out the FINEST mist around though (pump up small personal sprayer for plants and fat people on hot days) and I've learned out to do so carfully. H202 is pretty safe for mycelium in dilutions, if you get strong enough, or crazy enough with it though and start spraying all your primorida and pins until they're covered and start fizzing up then you could hurt the myc.


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3832710 - 02/25/05 01:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

yea, ive had soaking jar give a kinda quiet fizz when i put in too much h202 in my solution. just a reminder Gl

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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3832779 - 02/25/05 01:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I always put a small splash in my mister. Its like 1:20 ratio. It puts out the FINEST mist around though (pump up small personal sprayer for plants and fat people on hot days) and I've learned out to do so carfully. H202 is pretty safe for mycelium in dilutions, if you get strong enough, or crazy enough with it though and start spraying all your primorida and pins until they're covered and start fizzing up then you could hurt the myc.




Even then it's not that bad. I've done this before with no probs. Usually don't use h2o2 at all anymore but even spraying pins dead on with strong stuff is not as bad as one wopuld think. I think it's has something to do with the fact that h2o2 degrades into oxygen and water so quickly.


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3832858 - 02/25/05 02:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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yea, ive had soaking jar give a kinda quiet fizz when i put in too much h202 in my solution. just a reminder Gl

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Jars should always give a quiet fiz. Its the mycelium producing peroxidase and breaking down the peroxide. Doesnt mean you put in to much really, just maybe more then normal s it started fizzing quicker or more.

Yeah I know you CAN mist pins with heavy h202. But you'll do better NOT misting pins. With h202 or not.


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Edited by scatmanrav (02/25/05 02:03 PM)


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Re: wont h2o2 solutions hurt mycelium?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3833140 - 02/25/05 02:57 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Plain and simple peroxide or not is best to not mist a lot once pins have started to form , leads to caps getting bacterial bloch and such nasties.


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    #3833178 - 02/25/05 03:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

if the reccomendation were distilled water,
would tap and a cap of h202 be more
cost efficient?


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Re: x [Re: psilocyben]
    #3833225 - 02/25/05 03:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I am noy quite sure what you mean by this ...but...
In water resivoirs like the TROPIC AIRE humidifer\air exchanger it is best to not use tap in it especially if you live where water quality is poor. Salts and minerals will start to build up and ruin the sponge , the tubing etc. So no would not be cheaper in the long run due to you would be replacing the damn thing every few months, where with the 20:1 ratio using distilled water is best.
Ditilled water is not all that costly IMHO 50 cents a gallon.
As far as using steilized distilled water to mist with , not costly either and you know for damn sure you are not possibly watering and adding possible nasties when doing so(well sort of) :wink:.Where I live ... I would not give tap water to my worst enemy so for me is best to stick with clean as possible and yet use less chems and such to do so. Peroxide is harmless if used right , but have better things to use it on then misting. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Re: x [Re: tripndicular]
    #3833383 - 02/25/05 04:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I use tap and h202 in everything. It's never caused a problem misting, my humidifier does need to be replaced. But it is an ultrasonic running 24/7 in a room full of casings and spores ect and its been running for 5-6 months like that. I had to slowly turn up the output to get the same output overtime and now it doesnt even do the minimal output (from new) when its cranked up all the way. Walmart has had them on sale but the two of gone to are out when I go. Bastards.

In the future I think I'll be using distilled water, with h202.


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