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I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins?
    #3827781 - 02/24/05 04:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Currently I take a multivitamin, saw plametto extract and 4 grams a day of vit. B5 (pantothenic acid). Should I stop taking these in the upcoming days,etc.? Im not sure how i am dosing the rue and mushrooms yet.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: chrisb]
    #3827818 - 02/24/05 04:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

you know syrian rue is an MAOI right?


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: chrisb]
    #3827825 - 02/24/05 04:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois.shtml

you might find what you are looking for here.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3828621 - 02/24/05 07:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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lemon_lw said:
you know syrian rue is an MAOI right?




yeah, thats why i plan i taking it with mushrooms. I'm making sure that I don't have anything in my system that could interact badly w/ the MAOI.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: chrisb]
    #3828713 - 02/24/05 07:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Why are you taking that with mushrooms? It really doesn't have any effect on the mushrooms and the trip, so I don't see why you would take this combo.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: theocean06]
    #3828744 - 02/24/05 07:41 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

huh? I've heard that MAOI's can potentiate a trip from many sources. I plan on taking 3g rue seeds w/2.5 - 3g's of mushrooms. Why wouldn't it do anything?


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: chrisb]
    #3828812 - 02/24/05 07:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well, that is true for something like DMT, but I don't think it will have any effect on a mushroom trip.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: theocean06]
    #3829046 - 02/24/05 08:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

do you have any personal experience w/MAOI and mushrooms? There a dozens of trip reports on erowid that claim S.rue definetly increases a mushroom trip in one way or another.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: chrisb]
    #3829084 - 02/24/05 08:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

There was a thread a little while ago discussing the use of an MAOI with mushrooms, and it was concluded that it didn't really effect the trip. I checked out Erowid, and it does seem like people have a more intense, or just different trip when on an MAOI. Though, no two mushrooms trip are exactly like. I guess give it try, see what is different when using an MAOI and when not using one.

Make sure to follow a strict diet when taking an MAOI. I want you to stay safe and not end up suffering awful pains from eating foods you shouldn't. I am sure you have looked into this already, just letting you know.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: theocean06]
    #3829224 - 02/24/05 09:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I am almost positive that Syrian rue will potentiate a mushroom trip. Maybe I'm wrong but I would dose low on both.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: Heffy]
    #3829850 - 02/24/05 10:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

well, assuming/if my vitamins don't contain tyramines(sp?), its safe to keep on taking them, right? What are some good hearty foods that aren't restricted? I can't think of much to bring camping that will be really yummy...


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: chrisb]
    #3829877 - 02/24/05 10:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/12195
dont forget to check you stuff with this. it has the nifty little MAOI button. so according to the shroomery it does effect your trip. but never done it myself. and good looking out ocean. it says you only need 2.6 grams dried to hit level 5 if on an MAOI so be careful and not stupid please.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3830152 - 02/24/05 11:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

what is the general consensus on that calculator? Anyone around here agree that it is accurate to a certain degree regarding dosage and trip "levels"?


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: theocean06]
    #3830208 - 02/24/05 11:16 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I've tripped many times with and without syrian rue and can absolutely report a remarkable difference. Syrian rue taken with mushrooms doubles the effects of the mushrooms. Visuals are way more intense as well.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3830261 - 02/24/05 11:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I stand corrected :thumbup:


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3830262 - 02/24/05 11:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I've tripped many times with and without syrian rue and can absolutely report a remarkable difference. Syrian rue taken with mushrooms doubles the effects of the mushrooms. Visuals are way more intense as well.




this exactly what i like to hear. I would hate to go camping(which is so perfect for mushrooms)and eat 2.5gm's for a 2.5gm trip. Originally I was just going to take 4 grams but I found a place nearby that sells s. rue so i picked up an ounce of seeds. It was a little herbal shop that carried lots of enthnogeons(sp?), is LSA worth a try? LOL They were selling standerdized 10x salvia extract for $65.00 per half gram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3830273 - 02/24/05 11:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Rue definitely enhances the trip. It makes it stronger..by maybe 1.5-2X or so, in my experience, and gives a deeper, calmer, more serious vibe.
It's heavy man, watch out. I wouldn't take more than an 3.5, tops. I once took 4 grams plus rue..and..well..*hysterical laughter*..so big..so old.. I hovered above my body while playing guitar, and then watch my shadow fly off into the 4th dimension..


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: rdnp2035]
    #3830962 - 02/25/05 01:17 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

ha ha, I don't think I'll have the experience or the balls to do 4grams with rue for a long time.


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: chrisb]
    #3831099 - 02/25/05 01:45 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

"10x salvia extract for $65.00 per half gram", OUCH! Thats expensive
What would people here say about using another MAOI in place of the Syrian Rue. I know that the rue is entheogenic in its own right, would then substituting it with another MAOI take away from the experience?


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Re: I plan on taking mushrooms with S.Rue this weekend, should I abstain from vitamins? [Re: Kerr]
    #3831221 - 02/25/05 02:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

As long as you dose enough, any MAOI containing plant should do, you have to ingest a lot of syrian rue to achieve effects other than the MAOI, more than whats safe. I heard you have to ingest upwards of 6 ounces of passionflower to get MAO inhibiting, so syrian rue is probably the best way to inhibit. I just put 3.3 grams of ground seeds in gelcaps, it only takes 5 of them so its not like you downing tons of pills or drinking a nasty tea.


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