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Bodily symptoms / explained by Leary
    #3827543 - 02/24/05 03:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Oh well, just another Leary thread.
Prolly some of you have read this, but it was new to me.
While shrooming I?ve been struggling with most of the symptoms that are mentioned below ( especially Nr. 2,6,7 and 8 ).
I used to think I did something wrong, like eating the wrong stuff before ingestion or that my stomach was too weak, but now look at this.
O.K., I just hear the sceptics ripping it apart, but to me it makes perfect sense.
Does anyone have further information about why these symptons occur before ego loss ?
Here?s the text by Leary, taken from `The Psychedelic Experience`:

"If the person fails to recognize and accept the onset of ego loss, he may complain of strange bodily symptoms. This shows that he has not reached a liberated state. Then the guide or friend should explain the symptoms as indicating the onset of ego loss.

Here is a list of commonly reported physical sensations:

1.Bodily pressure, which the Tibetans call earth-sinking-into-water;
2.Clammy coldness, followed by feverish heat, which the Tibetans call water-sinking-into-fire;
3.Body disintegrating or blown to atoms, called fire-sinking-into-air;
4.Pressure on head and ears, which Americans call rocket-launching-into- space;
5.Tingling in extremities;
6.Feelings of body melting or flowing as if wax;
7.Nausea;
8.Trembling or shaking, beginning in pelvic regions and spreading up torso.

These physical reactions should be recognized as signs heralding transcendence. Avoid treating them as symptoms of illness, accept them, merge with them, enjoy them."


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Re: Bodily symptoms / explained by Leary [Re: trinity7]
    #3827587 - 02/24/05 03:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I've had 1,2,5,7,8 a lot of times while tripping. I always just assumed it was a panic attack and not anything to do with ego loss.


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Re: Bodily symptoms / explained by Leary [Re: moog]
    #3828520 - 02/24/05 06:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

never had any of those except number 8. Sometimes i feel like i am shivering, but im not.
One thing that was really odd that happened to me a few times was that my mouth didnt just go numb, but non-existent. Everytime it happens i think i have accidentally thrown up in my mouth, because i feel nothing, as if it wasnt there. No warmth, taste, or even occupation of space. I could still feel my lips, but the inside of my mouth was not attached to any of my perceptions for a time being.


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