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Invisibledblaney
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Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class
    #3823857 - 02/23/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class

U.S. National - AP

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - The state's top education official urged all schools to drop an anti-drug program after an evaluation released Wednesday found it taught inaccurate and unscientific information.

Jack O'Connell, superintendent of public instruction, launched the evaluation after The San Francisco Chronicle reported on inaccuracies in the program in June.

The panel of five medical doctors and nine school health education specialists said the program "does not reflect accurate, widely accepted medical and scientific evidence."

Narconon Drug Prevention & Education, a free program with ties to the Church of Scientology, made presentations in at least 39 California school districts since 2000, including San Francisco, Los Angeles and Sacramento. San Francisco and Los Angeles banned Narconon after the Chronicle reports.

Some teachers reported that Narconon instructors told students that the body can sweat out drug residues in saunas, and that as drugs exit the body, they produce colored ooze, the Chronicle reported.

Some other inaccuracies cited by the evaluation and the Chronicle ? including that drug residues stay in body fat, causing people to experience repeated flashbacks and cravings ? echo beliefs held by the Church of Scientology.

Narconon's president Clark Carr defended the program after the evaluation.

"Narconon is proud that throughout our nearly 40 years of service we have been able to help millions of youth worldwide to turn away from drug experimentation and a life on drugs," Carr said.

Among other findings, the panel determined that Narconon also incorrectly told students that the amount of a drug taken determines whether it acts as a stimulant or sedative, and that drugs "ruin creativity and dull senses."


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3823887 - 02/23/05 08:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Wow, I am so incredibly proud of those California educational people.  What a nice surprise.  :smile:


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3823989 - 02/23/05 08:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Misinformation?! In an anti-drug class?! I'm shocked :smirk:. Good For Cali.


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3824035 - 02/23/05 09:02 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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dblaney18 said:
Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class
"Some teachers reported that Narconon instructors told students that the body can sweat out drug residues in saunas, and that as drugs exit the body, they produce colored ooze, the Chronicle reported. "





Wow! They must have been really baked while watching a commercial for gatoraide and came up with the idea.


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: d33p]
    #3824964 - 02/24/05 12:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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dblaney18 said:
Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class
"Some teachers reported that Narconon instructors told students that the body can sweat out drug residues in saunas, and that as drugs exit the body, they produce colored ooze, the Chronicle reported. "





Wow! They must have been really baked while watching a commercial for gatoraide and came up with the idea.




LOL


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3825085 - 02/24/05 12:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I can't believe some people still think Narcanon is a legitimate source for either information or rehabilation. They might as well just go to the Church of Scientology's website to look for information on drugs.

Not really surprising that they'd drop it, I'm surprised any legitimate school would accept it in the first place, seeing how much Scientology-based bullshit it spouts. Not even the government could back the ridiculous "facts" they tell people.


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3825788 - 02/24/05 02:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder if it was because they broke out the "E-Meter".... :rolleyes:


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: d33p]
    #3827396 - 02/24/05 02:52 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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dblaney18 said:
Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class
"Some teachers reported that Narconon instructors told students that the body can sweat out drug residues in saunas, and that as drugs exit the body, they produce colored ooze, the Chronicle reported. "





Wow! They must have been really baked while watching a commercial for gatoraide and came up with the idea.




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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3827507 - 02/24/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Those programs are hypocrites.They demonize methamphetamine yet these same people are often the people who advocate methamphetamine and other amphetamines for ADD kids as young as preschool age.

Also the same people who consume large amounts of caffeine and have a caffeine habit.

Im glad they dropped the program.Those programs are always horrible and just government propaganda.

They should be teaching moderation and self discipline.They complain people have a life on drugs referring to an addiction.Whose fault is that?Theyre blaming drugs for what people do.Yet when it comes to alcohol or other addictions its the persons fault.Obviously the problem is always with the person.They should be treating addiction and teaching non-addiction instead of feeding them lies and they go out and try it and see the programs were wrong and disbelieve everything both fact and fiction which is more harmful.

I think if society wasnt so anti-drug we'd see a large drop in school aged drug users since I knwo for a fact alot of people that age do drugs just to rebel and to be "cool" :rolleyes:


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3827600 - 02/24/05 03:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Doesn't the Church of Scientology believe that drug use in past lives leaves a stain on your... um... whatever they call it? Past life drug use costs several thousand dollars to cleanse, as I understand it.


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: phi1618]
    #3827794 - 02/24/05 04:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Past life drug use costs several thousand dollars to cleanse, as I understand it.




lol

The problem is they will most likely replace it with some other program, perhaps D.A.R.E. or something similar. The problem with these programs is yeah, that they teach the horrors of drugs, which actually makes many kids MORE curious and is counterproductive. They would be much wiser in teaching the honest facts and harm reduction.


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3827883 - 02/24/05 04:32 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

D.A.R.E. is bullshit, but they base some of their information on semi-truthful facts, and then use a bit of propaganda to elaborate on it. Narcanon literally does not follow any scientific information or facts, they follow the Church of Scientology, and say that drugs stay in your system for decades until you sweat it out with running, saunas and vitamin B, and a bunch of other bullshit. This isn't some step against anti-drug classes at all, it's just getting rid of a simple cult's influence in the school system really.


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: dblaney]
    #3830504 - 02/25/05 12:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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, and that drugs "ruin creativity and dull senses."




All I can say is "WOW, I wonder what mindblowing art and music we might have had if only artists would have refrained from using drugs".

Geez, do these people think about what they are saying at all?


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Re: Calif. Schools Chief: Drop Anti-Drug Class [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3835647 - 02/26/05 03:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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, and that drugs "ruin creativity and dull senses."




All I can say is "WOW, I wonder what mindblowing art and music we might have had if only artists would have refrained from using drugs".

Geez, do these people think about what they are saying at all?




um, remember all the crappy reunion albums and tours of the 80's and 90's? Something like that, maybe slightly more mediocre.


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