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InvisibleMOTH
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Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile
    #3823761 - 02/23/05 06:08 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, I've always wanted to do this, ever since I was a little girl. Recently I've started thinking maybe it's about time I start making plans to do this. Once I tried to go camping by myself, and it was so terrible. I was so lonely that I cried and cried and eventually packed up and drove away on the second night. But I think if I didn't have access to a vehicle I would have stuck it out.

So basically I am thinking: A forest in the wilderness, some equipement, several doses of mushrooms, and somebody to drop me off and pick me back up again so that I don't try to escape when things get rough.

I think this would be good for me. What do you think?

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3823771 - 02/23/05 06:10 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i think it would be a deeply spiritual experience for you, to be sure. you'd probably learn a lot about yourself.

do be careful, though :laugh:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3823772 - 02/23/05 06:10 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

bring a razor.
no one likes a hairy beaver.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: belowground]
    #3823776 - 02/23/05 06:11 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

yes, be careful.

both the world and your mind will tear you apart if you're not prepared.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3823789 - 02/23/05 06:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like a plan to me. Just make sure youve got everything you need and know how to handle emergency situations. I suggest reading The NOLS Wilderness first aid book, just to be safe.

Im planning on hiking the whole AT solo within the next 3 years. 2000+ miles of me and a pack. Should be interesting. Of course Ill run into peeps along the way.

If you think you'll need to "escape", You might want to think this through a little more first. It sounds like your only aiming for a week or so? If this is the case I dont see why you'd need to flee the forest. Sounds like a great thing to do, just make sure your ready for it.


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Oh shit, don't drink it.... It would eat away your esophagus...
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3823828 - 02/23/05 06:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I know, I will do a lot of preperation if I do this. I am one of those people who needs reassurance from other people often to be secure in my own reality...so the loneliness really gets to me if I am in the middle of nowhere.

But that's exactly why I think it is important that I put myself through that. To learn to depend on myself more.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3823843 - 02/23/05 06:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I think every person should do this at least once, as a test of their will. Camp out in the woods, alone for 3 or 4 days.

Personally I think the shroomies would be a great idea. You might actually find any trip anxiety reduced since there is no "artifical environment" stress, like machines and other people. Just be one with nature. If you can endure such an experience I think you'll come out of it feeling a lot stronger mentally, and a lot more connected with Earth.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3823892 - 02/23/05 06:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I would start with a solo overnight trip, just to get a feel and to help ease your mind. My best trips into the woods were on my solo overnights.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3823928 - 02/23/05 06:43 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Please let us know how your experience goes.

I wish I could find a lady who wanted to do this.  :cool:

You might want to make sure that you thoroughly cover all your "needs" like bottled water, herbs, food, flashlight, etc.

That'll probably be the only thing you should worry about. Perhaps insect repellent depending on where you go and a first aid kit of some sort might help.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3823946 - 02/23/05 06:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Go sit under a lotus tree for a day or two and meditate.





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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3823957 - 02/23/05 06:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

oo and bring some nature identification books, some nature craft books and a pen n pencil with a jurnal.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: 40oz]
    #3823966 - 02/23/05 06:50 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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fortyounces2freedom said:
bring a razor.
no one likes a hairy beaver.



There was a poll that disproves this statement :rolleyes:


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: moog]
    #3823975 - 02/23/05 06:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Be sure to bring the right gear.

You will definitely need an insulating mat to sleep on, and rain gear.

On my first vision quest I brought very little with me and nearly froze to death when the weather turned bad and stayed bad for three days. I will never forget that journey; I brought no drugs with me and no food, no mat, no sleeping bag; only a tent, survival gear and fishing gear. I was planning to be gone for forty days and forty nights. I was ten miles into the woods along a trout stream and ended up hiking back to town in the middle of the third night because I was hearing voices telling me to kill myself. I had been wet and cold and hungry for three days and I think hypothermia was threatening. When I left for that trip I expected that some great wisdom would be revealed to me while I was gone, and this was the case. I learned that unlike the animals, I need things to survive in this world, and I learned that as a social being, I also need other people. 

Today I still venture into the wilderness alone, but it's usually only for one or two days, and now I bring the right gear, including food and medicine :wink:. Upon my return I truly appreciate the conveniences of everyday life and the company of friends.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: shroomydan]
    #3823990 - 02/23/05 06:54 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I think I might do this during spring break...but I don't know anywhere nearby besides public parks that I could go do it at. Well, I might have to do some research and see if there are any private campgrounds with lots of wilderness.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824009 - 02/23/05 06:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Where abouts are you?

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: shroomydan]
    #3824018 - 02/23/05 06:59 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Austin, Texas

And the weather is just about to get good for this sort of thing, too.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824043 - 02/23/05 07:03 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Can I come isolate myself with you? :grin: We'll build a shack out of logs and moss and I promise I won't talk much!

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824075 - 02/23/05 07:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Well it should be warm enough :smile: Hopefully you will be able to find a secluded spot. I'd check nearby national forrests; You'll probably have to hike a few miles to get away from everything.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: adrug]
    #3824095 - 02/23/05 07:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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adrug said:
Can I come isolate myself with you? :grin: We'll build a shack out of logs and moss and I promise I won't talk much!




Shit, I wouldn't want to be isolated in the wilderness with anyone else!  :heart:  :grin:

You can help me wrestle any bears that wander our way.  :thumbup:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824098 - 02/23/05 07:15 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

More likely you'll both be wrestling beavers  :grin:


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Oh shit, don't drink it.... It would eat away your esophagus...
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824115 - 02/23/05 07:18 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

:lol:

I just would really like to go somewhere. Somewhere new. Somewhere that isn't here! I've been here for awhile now and I think I've gotten all out of it that I possibly can. The idea of living in a commune appeals to me more and more everyday.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824119 - 02/23/05 07:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Seriously I hope you to dont catch beaver feaver! Be careful!

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: adrug]
    #3824143 - 02/23/05 07:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

If I could convince my husband, I would go live in a commune in a heartbeat. But he isn't too warm on the idea for some reason.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824242 - 02/23/05 07:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

its a great thing. i did this as a young teen (no drugs though) and it was right around then that my WHOLE mind set completely changed, i used to be all into making money. i was totally obsessed with it, and i was also totally obsessed with breaking shit. loved to fall trees and tear down old stuff we were gonan rebuild. also i used to be very violent.

im not saying it was the wilderness but it was somthing around that time that completely changed my veiws (over the course of a couple years), now im a big furry hippy that cant come to kill a bee.


aaaanyway, ive been hiking and camping for years. if you need any help on what to bring how to do things pm/e-mail me and i can help you out. i got msn and aol if you like.

peace, i dont think you will regret it!


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: kadakuda]
    #3824266 - 02/23/05 07:53 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I really would like a tee pee! or is it tipi?

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3824362 - 02/23/05 08:19 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I disagree with most of these folks, Elle.

I think a lot of us are at a stage where we want something big and drastic and life changing to happen to us. But the way to make that happen is to make small changes in our lives gradually, not try to have the most extreme/isolating/intense/spiritual experience money and drugs can get you. I think you'd be better served by applying that effort elsewhere.

The woods can be dangerous by yourself on drugs. What if you run into a bear and can't tell if you are hallucinating or not.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3824398 - 02/23/05 08:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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The woods can be dangerous by yourself on drugs. What if you run into a bear and can't tell if you are hallucinating or not.





Not to be a dick, but that sounds rediculous. I think that Ellemy know herself well enough not to take an amount of any substance that would cause a complete loss of reality. Be responsible and be safe is what I say.

I think that the idea of going into the woods alone for a week isnt very extreme as you put it. Its not pulling a Chris Mccandless and writing off society for life. Its just a little self exploration for a week.


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Oh shit, don't drink it.... It would eat away your esophagus...
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3824399 - 02/23/05 08:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

goo dpoint. but there is no where else i would rather be left alone to reflect on things than secluded in nature. there are dangers, but we gotta take the bad with the good.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824440 - 02/23/05 08:36 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I have done a lot of hiking and camping alone. And I trip alone a lot as well (though usually not in the wilderness). Some people act like it is some test of your strength to be alone in the wilderness. Personally, I find the solitude relaxing. I enjoy being the only person for miles around. I also enjoy the company of others on a trip but its always pleasant to go out by yourself on occasion.

This is a self-portrait taken just after sunset on a solo backpacking trip. I was the only person for miles here.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824450 - 02/23/05 08:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

We all know psychedelics well enough to know that we cannot predict exact reactions. The danger isn't hallucinating a bear, it's seeing a real bear and hallucinating it's friendly or not threatening, and responding the wrong way. It doesn't take a complete loss of reality for something bad to happen, just a small mistake in perception could percipitate disaster. It's not extreme by itself, but a 1 week trip to the woods could be dangerous combined with drugs for a person who does not have expert wilderness skills and instincts.

Additional danger comes from being a woman alone in the woods, especially because animals can be attracted to blood and whatnot from before, during, and after the period.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824466 - 02/23/05 08:40 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
Okay, I've always wanted to do this, ever since I was a little girl. Recently I've started thinking maybe it's about time I start making plans to do this. Once I tried to go camping by myself, and it was so terrible. I was so lonely that I cried and cried and eventually packed up and drove away on the second night. But I think if I didn't have access to a vehicle I would have stuck it out.

So basically I am thinking: A forest in the wilderness, some equipment, several doses of mushrooms, and somebody to drop me off and pick me back up again so that I don't try to escape when things get rough.

I think this would be good for me. What do you think?





I feel the same, except i plan to live in the wilderness indefinitely. I am stocking up on my supplies and planning to move in a couple of years. I would do it sooner, but something unexpected came up. I love solitude, so the isolation wouldn't be a problem. Im glad you have a chance to experience this.

How long do you plan to stay for ?

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824503 - 02/23/05 08:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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beejay said:
Its not pulling a Chris Mccandless and writing off society for life. Its just a little self exploration for a week.




I hate this society. Its horrible and it will only get worst. I plan to write off society for a long time, if not for life.

But im a complete nutter :crazy2:....

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824528 - 02/23/05 08:51 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Rock on Tyler that sounds awesome.

Summit, that is an exceptional picture. Solo hiking rocks, but like you I do love my crew as well.

Tomk, well though out post. Very good points indeed. Perhaps a few preliminary experiences in solo camping would be a wise idea. However I still believe that for some, a small to moderate dose of mushrooms and being alone in the woods is fine. I have not tripped in the woods alone, but have on many backpacking trips with friends. My brain very well knew that jumping off a nearby cliff was a bad idea, even on 2 hits of acid.


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Oh shit, don't drink it.... It would eat away your esophagus...
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Edited by beejay (02/23/05 08:51 PM)

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824544 - 02/23/05 08:53 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Society's not that bad. Keep faith my friend, there are still gifts to be found in this tangled web of mankind. Im still down for rediculously long trips away from it though :thumbup:


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Anjaba said:
Oh shit, don't drink it.... It would eat away your esophagus...
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824556 - 02/23/05 08:55 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i think it sounds like  very, very bad idea. did i mention very?
remember the guys who went rock climbing alone (without any psychedelics in his system, mind you), and that fucking rock crushed his arm and he had to cut it off himself? REMEMBER?
yeah.
bad idea. :thumbdown:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824574 - 02/23/05 08:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks. Btw who is Chris Mcandless ? :confused:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824602 - 02/23/05 09:01 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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i think it sounds like  very, very bad idea. did i mention very?
remember the guys who went rock climbing alone (without any psychedelics in his system, mind you), and that fucking rock crushed his arm and he had to cut it off himself? REMEMBER?
yeah.
bad idea. :thumbdown:




Did you ever read his book ? Its pretty cool. He actually took pictures of the boulder crushing his arm. And the trip back.

He said it was the most awarding experience of his life.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3824604 - 02/23/05 09:01 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Well, those are some good points, and I recognize the dangers.  As for my period, I can make sure to do it during a time of the month that's not bloody. 

I don't know, for some reasons the possible dangers don't scare me that much.  Chances are, I won't be in a completely isolated area, probably a private camping place.  There aren't any bears that I know of in central Texas either. 

Thanks for looking out for me guys.  :heart:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824611 - 02/23/05 09:02 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

asceticism rox!


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824612 - 02/23/05 09:02 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

He ran off and explored the US and ended up dying in Alaska because of a missing entry in a botanical guide. There is a book about him called "into the wild" very good read.

Amethyst dear, people die in car crashes all the time, but people still drive their cars. People go solo backpacking all the time and most dont die. With the right preparation there is really nothing to worry about IMO.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3824635 - 02/23/05 09:07 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I seen lots of bears in the wild. Its not such a big deal. The mind is our public enemy # 1 is our minds.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824639 - 02/23/05 09:07 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It's not just during the bloody part, during the part you are fertile, the hormones could attract animals with no blood.

We don't want you to be completely isolated cause then you would never be here!


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824644 - 02/23/05 09:08 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

that's a horrible argument. "people die in car crashes all the time".
you KNOW that is comparing apples to oranges.
you know it's a bad idea, other wise you wouldn't have posted this. but if you really believe it's no more dangerous than driving a car, then go ahead, and evolution will phase you out if you can't fend for youself.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824658 - 02/23/05 09:10 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I think you should at least try for a few days Elly. If nothing else you could work up to longer periods of time from just an overnight stay.

When I graduate college I plan to backpack into the most remote wilderness I can find and then set up a permanent type dwelling. But I love the outdoors and I don't mind being alone.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3824661 - 02/23/05 09:10 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

So how did the native peoples go about this? I dont think the south has wolves eather. If she is in her moon time she should worry more about male humans then an animal brother or sister.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824687 - 02/23/05 09:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Uh I bet more backpacking people live a long time then car people.

Further, the backpackers enjoy the ride a lot more. I half think that the problem with the USA is that we have no ritual like many cultures do where the young are sent off tripping into the woods until they find their way back a long time later.

I think you would have to approach the right way, and be sure to have people you know close enough to help you if you needed it. But think about it, it's not everyone you want to be isolated from, it's only most people, you could go away with a small group of genuine friends, and feel isolated and still have good people you love around! That would be a lot safer and probably a lot more rewarding, especially if they were also inward pointed and valued time alone, staying within, say, whitle range but doing their own thing and meeting to talk about it and share chores (and keep each other warm (not sexually) at night). It's a lot easier to survive in a group, and you could still cut off everything distracting and superfical.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824689 - 02/23/05 09:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

hmmmm the comparison was just made to illustrate the point that just cause there are bad casses associated with an activity doesnt mean that the activity is destined for certain doom. Anyway, I do know more people that have been seriously injured in car accidents than backpacking trips.

In any case if Ellemy does the research and prepares properly, she will be fine. Im going to go get phased out by evolution now.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824698 - 02/23/05 09:15 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Evolution ?

How do you think the human race got to where it is today ?

By surviving in the wilderness.

The chance of her being killed, or harmed is very slim.

Evolution ? That is a horrible argument.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3824708 - 02/23/05 09:17 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

What you are talking about is called a vision quest, done without the aid of halucinogens. Sweat lodges and no food for three days, prayer and reflection.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824714 - 02/23/05 09:19 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

you havnt spent much time in the wilderness have you?

sure there are dangers from animals, hwoever the dangers are fairly limited. bears are REALLY predictable in many ways. grizzleys are nasty fucks, so its basically carry some form of defense. the balck bears here often the best defence is a peice of clothing or even a leafy branch. same with cougars, wolves etc...mammals (except humans) are usually pretty predictable (i am also not talkign about takign psychedelics while doign so, thats nto my call).

in texas she may run into other dangerous things liek snakes and that, but they too are very safe. very little danger unless your being stupid.

i would agree. travelling at 70ish mph down a highway in a 2000 pound peice of machinery with hundreds of others doing the same, often having some coming right at you only feet away, is FAR more dangerous than walkign on a trail and seting up a tent.

while hiking the real dangers are becoming too complacent. its often little shit like tripping on a root, or not filtering your water and things like that that are going to cause far more trouble than a bear would.

well thats my experience here in bc anyway.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824718 - 02/23/05 09:19 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

agreed, the thing that would kill some one is human error, the elements, sickness, lacerations, falls, food, and water.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824720 - 02/23/05 09:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

omg this is ridiculous, kids.

"How do you think the human race got to where it is today ?

By surviving in the wilderness."


COME ON, are you serious????
NOT by surviving in the wilderness, in isolation, on high doses of psychedelics.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3824721 - 02/23/05 09:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

there are many versions of that type of cerimony from group to group though. I do believe that there are versions that envolve hallucinagens.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824737 - 02/23/05 09:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

who said anything about high doses of hallucinagens?

I already said she should do it without the drugs first and even after that, there is a difference between a gram or two of mushrooms and downing five grams.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824739 - 02/23/05 09:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I agree, I have mostly studied the non psychedelic induced ones, beeing that I beleave true knowledge doesnt need to be sourced threw chemical means.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824742 - 02/23/05 09:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

ok i'm done with this post.....

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3824745 - 02/23/05 09:24 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with you one hundred percent.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824747 - 02/23/05 09:24 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

bye now, come back soon. Ya hear.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824754 - 02/23/05 09:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

read the dharma bums by kerouac.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824755 - 02/23/05 09:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I am going to say it again, she should go out for a single solo night without food, so she can aclimate a bit to the solitude.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824759 - 02/23/05 09:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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NOT by surviving in the wilderness, in isolation, on high doses of psychedelics.





:lol:  That post made me laugh :smile: No you're right. I wasn't talking about what may happen on high doses of psychedelics.

It depends on her, though....

Personally, i wouldnt take a large dose then go walking around the woods. But if she stayed in her tent or around it....i think she would be fine.

I mean if a bear starts attacking her, i dont think it would matter if she was on psychedelics or not, she would be in trouble.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824768 - 02/23/05 09:30 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I didnt think she was talking about being on psychedelics either.

:shrug: whatever....

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3824783 - 02/23/05 09:32 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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SHEIKofSHIITAKE said:
I am going to say it again, she should go out for a single solo night without food, so she can aclimate a bit to the solitude.




I agree with the acclimation idea fully, but why without food?


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824795 - 02/23/05 09:35 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

For one night it would be fine. Ive done it, water is good. Makes you realise that what we take for granted daily is often hard to come by for others.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824807 - 02/23/05 09:37 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

fuck it, learn to camp and dose what you want. its fun, can be scary can be dangerous. its what being "free" is all about!

ellemy have a balst! your gonna love it! jsut go prepared.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3824810 - 02/23/05 09:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

fair enough, makes sense to me.

My friend did the Outward bound program and during his solo hike part of the course, he opted to fast for three days straight. He said that was an interesting experience. He did hallucinate from it, but the guides suggest it for those who feel theyre ready for it.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: kadakuda]
    #3824813 - 02/23/05 09:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

kadakuda said:
fuck it, learn to camp and dose what you want.  its fun, can be scary can be dangerous.  its what being "free" is all about!

ellemy have a balst!  your gonna love it!  jsut go prepared.




:cool: :thumbup:

Do it! Have a nice time, ellemy.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824821 - 02/23/05 09:40 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

x_TYLER_x said:
Quote:

kadakuda said:
fuck it, learn to camp and dose what you want.  its fun, can be scary can be dangerous.  its what being "free" is all about!

ellemy have a balst!  your gonna love it!  jsut go prepared.




:cool: :thumbup:

Do it! Have a nice time, ellemy.




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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824827 - 02/23/05 09:41 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

oh no one more...

"So basically I am thinking: A forest in the wilderness, some equipement, several doses of mushrooms, and somebody to drop me off and pick me back up again so that I don't try to escape when things get rough. "

sounds like she was thinking of oh....SEVERAL DOSES OF MUSHROOMS.
lol am i the only one who read the original post?

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3824830 - 02/23/05 09:42 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I am very happy to see a shroomerite who wants to attemp this.

I went up to my favourite mountain (walking) last year, at an altitude of 1500m and stayed there ,picking Amanitas for four days all alone,
...picking in the day, drying the Amanita chips at night, no books or music, just me, and the trees.

Camping gear, food and my santa-like sack.

I knew that wolfs where a bit higher on the mountains, but based on my good luck and the highly spiritual reason of my mission, it was a must-do thing for me. (Had a rambo-style knife with me just in case)

Of course i had been a few times on that mountain before, but never alone.... the closest village was 6-7 Khm away, with no more than 30 people living there.

The first night was the most difficult...every little sound, from leaf movement, to small animals around me, was an adrenalin kick of its own.
I knew that wolfs are afraid of fire, and i was calming myself by sitting close to it,(had to keep an eye on those Amanitas anyway, heh)

I started to think i 'm a fkn looner for doing such an extreme thing, but...i just did it, time passed, i got sleepy....thank god i was tired from all that walking so i finally managed to ignore all those sounds and sleep.

In the morning, i woke up when the first beam of light hit the sky, in complete synchronization with the f o r e s t !

I was feeling the happiness of the trees and listening to the sounds of nature...i had some tea, and started the magical Amanita-hunt...there are no words to describe the magic and mystery that lays within the Amanita hunting trip.

Only those who experience this hunt can understand what it means, it is a psychedelic experience in its own, I mention it cos it played an important role in my whole experience, It helped me meditate, by keeping me in constant motion.(active meditation)

In the beggining of the day, i still had some thoughts running in my brain, but by the end, and because of the lack of other human presence, i had thought almost every possible aspect of those thoughts.

Finally thoughts,reached an end... and on day two i realized that i had stopped thinking.....Deep in the Amanita trip, i lost connection with my previous way of living....and with nothing on my mind, i became ONE with my surroundings, T H E  F O R E S T !

I realized that i wasn't a stranger to that forest anymore........i started becoming  more like an animal that lived there normally. :smile: years after, i found out it was a oobe

My concentration felt stronger and my energy was just floating around my body. I found out how much power humans are losing just by living in the city....

For the first time in my life i was keeping company to myself for so long...untill i left "me" also...

Freedom had a completely new meaning to me up there...I could scan the mountains, move sneeky, fast ,slow, randomly with great confidence as i was learning my territory better....

I was the master, no rules, no nothing....only the trees who always seemed to agree with me....
I had things to do, very important, but i wouldn't think about them, i just did them...didn't think, just act.....

I follwed some cows who where eating the Amanitas, they showed me secret places where hundreds where growing.....

I talked to the mushrooms...It was a complete trip, but i didn't realize its actuall strength before i reached civilization again...

The days went by and (at the end of the 4th) i met the guy who had those cows up there, asked him to give me a lift, went to the bus station and directly to the city.......

I had never felt so alienated before in my life....no even amongst sobers while tripn on alot of acid.

I stared at anxious people and cars....in such a nirvana.....i knew that i didn't belong there...my home was on that mountain....

Noise and dirt was all around me....and the most dangerous animal of all.....humans. I felt sorry for them, couldnt believe how stupid they can be....so far from the real magic...... non spiritual dirty brain damaged robots...

Long after my experience, i read a book by Aleister Crowly, where he mentions that the three top religions of the world had a common point....their spiritual leaders, all vanished in the deserts-mountains in isolation for extended periods of time, and when they returned they seemed to have the power to teach other humans....

From my experience i can now imagine what kind of psychic powers one can sustain from isolation.

I only did it for four days and felt much stronger and knowlegable...every human need some time by himself and we rarely provide that to ourself....

I suppose the escape from the ordinary everyday reality is key here....

For anyone who wants to try this, be shure to find the right place.....and if you 're a girl...well...find the perfect place, and make SHURE its the right(have a cell phone with you, and have someone know where you are) HUMANS are the most dangerous animal.

Have a paralizer with you or something..he

here's a pic of my x on that mountain from another Amanita-hunt



and cruching them before consumption, hehe



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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
    #3824840 - 02/23/05 09:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

she didnt say she was gonna down the whole damn lot of em. We have all advisored her to go out camping without doing any drugs first. I recomended a book that is used to train wilderness EMTs. She'll be fine.


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Oh shit, don't drink it.... It would eat away your esophagus...
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824841 - 02/23/05 09:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I've always found places that evidence human creativity to be better to trip than just plain nature. Like places where nature and the best of technology come together (think nature trails, good garden stores, etc). Plain nature is scarey because nothing is safe, and plain human is scarey because of machine like conformity, but put them together and...


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Sterile]
    #3824853 - 02/23/05 09:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

yay! a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing that :smile: I cant wait till my trip this summer to Alaska.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Sterile]
    #3824883 - 02/23/05 09:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

isnt it amazing how once your mind stops living in quote normal life, how our senses become alive again and notice the music wich goes on around us. The music I speak of is pretty much the never ending synphoney life.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Sterile]
    #3824896 - 02/23/05 09:53 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Great story!  :thumbup:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3824919 - 02/23/05 09:59 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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tomk said:
I've always found places that evidence human creativity to be better to trip than just plain nature.  Like places where nature and the best of technology come together (think nature trails, good garden stores, etc).  Plain nature is scarey because nothing is safe, and plain human is scarey because of machine like conformity, but put them together and...




whatever floats your boat.  :grin:

Personally, i find nature(the uncertainty, and everything about it) to be the only place that i feel free.

Nature > Technology

Night, everybody

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824926 - 02/23/05 10:01 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thats what society has done to us, it has made us scared of the things from wich we came, for nothing more then a material gain.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3824941 - 02/23/05 10:03 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Glad that theres still some of us that arent afraid of mother nature.

:yawn:
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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: beejay]
    #3824953 - 02/23/05 10:06 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

as am I buh bye.

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: TYL3R]
    #3824960 - 02/23/05 10:07 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, but I can't reconcile nature > technology with the fact that these shrooms grow best in artifical conditions like landscaped areas, or that the only way I get music is through technology. Man, technology is great, I can't wait to get upgrades like surgically installed headphones, superfocus sight, where you can focus on everything at once, and shit like that. Compared to where technology will be in 1000 years, drugs are primative at opening your mind. Think that the exact brainstates could be carefully crafted to give the best experience. That feeling you get in nature, we can recreate that on a computer, and optimize, and upload it to your brain and offer you bliss that WILL be experientially better than your experience in nature, and because we will all realize that what we experience is what is real, from advances in quantum physics. We are leaving this whole planet behind and then we will get from technology what we got from nature and it will be a beautiful thing my friend.

To think all this will happen in the 7 years between now and 2012. Until then, nature is the best we got, but technology gains will beat it in the end. Remember, nature is part of this planet and we will leave it behind when we transcend the world. But we will still have technology! You think it's not as good, I see it in your head, but technology is better! You want isolation, try being an astronaut! You can moon the whole planet at one time! Technology will defeat nature my friend Tyler!

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3825012 - 02/23/05 10:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

so basically if you are bitten by a snake or spider you are fucked  :shrug:


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3825031 - 02/23/05 10:17 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, did this post get long...

Yeah, if I do it I'll go somewhere safe, no cliffs, moving water or bears or anything.  And I'm married, so I'm sure my husband will bug me about safety. 

I don't know, I've been craving nature like mad lately.  Living in the city really gets draining.  My childhood was spent dirty and bare-foot in rural Pennsylvania.  I spent almost all my time out in the woods.  Then I moved to Texas in different cities and became much less active. 

I'm still a wild-child at heart.  :heart:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3825169 - 02/23/05 10:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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tomk said:
Yeah, but I can't reconcile nature > technology with the fact that these shrooms grow best in artifical conditions like landscaped areas, or that the only way I get music is through technology.  Man, technology is great, I can't wait to get upgrades like surgically installed headphones, superfocus sight, where you can focus on everything at once, and shit like that.  Compared to where technology will be in 1000 years, drugs are primative at opening your mind.  Think that the exact brainstates could be carefully crafted to give the best experience.  That feeling you get in nature, we can recreate that on a computer, and optimize, and upload it to your brain and offer you bliss that WILL be experientially better than your experience in nature, and because we will all realize that what we experience is what is real, from advances in quantum physics.  We are leaving this whole planet behind and then we will get from technology what we got from nature and it will be a beautiful thing my friend.

To think all this will happen in the 7 years between now and 2012.  Until then, nature is the best we got, but technology gains will beat it in the end.  Remember, nature is part of this planet and we will leave it behind when we transcend the world.  But we will still have technology!  You think it's not as good, I see it in your head, but technology is better!  You want isolation, try being an astronaut!  You can moon the whole planet at one time!  Technology will defeat nature my friend Tyler!

/transhumanist




why do you have to be dissatisfied with what we have?  You life lacks in ways that make you see the need to "better" something.  If people would only open there eyes and see threw the lazyness and greed.  You sir are a new trend a fad, Just like all trends they will fade away, nature will provaile,

Keep seeking outside yourself for ways of pleasure, you will awake one day to realise your whole life has been searching for something or bettering something that was with you the whole time.

I dont mean to be rude but I feel what you want to achive is exactly what we do not need and in that you , meaning the whole that think like you will fail.  I am not dareing you to achive what you desire, Yo u will succeed in your life time, but it is the generations ahead that will pay for your mistakes.


"drugs are primative at opening your mind.  Think that the exact brainstates could be carefully crafted to give the best experience."  the source is within us all no need to look else where.

I am sure I offend you, I mean it with the upmost respect though. :heart:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3825543 - 02/23/05 11:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

See I realize that that bliss I get in nature is a brainstate that could be further refined by technology. It is out of how much I love that moment that I think we should refine it with technology. You speak as if there is anything but an artifical barrier between technology and nature. Surely as one as enlightened as you knows the boundries we create between things are artifical consturctions, the boundry between nature and technology is like this. It is our nature to use technology to better ourselves! We evolved that way! Every time you are blissed out in nature and wearing shoes you are realizing your evolutionary traits of using technology to thrive in and enhance the experience of nature. Technology is built into humanity so that we can survive in nature. But it's the technology that is part of our humanity. No wonder you take refuge in new age crap if you are so conflicted about the part of your nature that lets you survive in nature. You should take some more shrooms and watch the walls between ntaure and technolgy dissolve as you watch some of the shit birds can do with sticks.

Me I want a houseboat with a satalite internet connection.


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3825545 - 02/23/05 11:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i would find a stream to go swimmin in...


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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: tomk]
    #3825582 - 02/23/05 11:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Then it looses it specialness, then we become unhappy again, then you will further your search, and so on and so on, never being fully happy always wanting more then whats needed.

I am not in revolt of technology, I am not enlightened. I simply see no need in making life to be so exagerated. If thats the way life is, then so be it, I will peacfully be with you all living the way life best works for me.

ps i often walk bare foot or in flip flops there is nothing new to the age I walk in i walk in nature.

I see the birds use tools and its amazing, they get there grub and are happy, as am I

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3825616 - 02/23/05 11:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

ive always wanted to do this too.  lets do it together :wink: you're in austin right?? :laugh:

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Re: Living in the woods in total isolation for awhile [Re: MOTH]
    #3825711 - 02/24/05 12:08 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Never did it alone. Me and a few close friends spent a couple months
camping in isolation in Oregon one summer. Did it in N. California the next summer. Both times were absolutaly wonderful.  :sun:


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